22 jet

There was only one gun chambered for the Jet that I know of. Thats' the Model 53 S&W. They have .222 bore size and a real odd-ball. I can see no real reason to build a Jet.
Any Ruger #1 that won't group into round two inch groups with factory ammo needs work.

Lever Guy said:

1). please feel free to respond, even swat at me if this is posted in wrong section.
2) First, is the 22 Jet worth getting into since I am a reloader?
3) what accuracy should I expect from a Ruger #1 25-06 factory loads.

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1) You've been here for a while, and admitted to having been following along... So please, don't off-track another thread.
2) "Worth it" is an individual's personal value proposition, there is no magically universal answer. It's been over a decade for me, since buying any factory ammo; when there has been less costly factory ammo widely available. To me, it was "worth it" to be able to pressure test and record what was going on in my rifle.

3) That's a different question, for a different thread. 😉
But just like the "worth it" question, there is no universal answer. Factory ammo is about economics, and components like powder, are very regularly swapped. So what was possible with yesterday's lot, may not be what is possible with today's.

Cheers

I have long had a fascination with the .22 Jet. Bid on several barrels for Contender, but they went higher than I was willing to pay. Now, it is hard to find a contender barrel in Jet. Got some dies real cheap about 10 years ago, and found cartriges easy to form.

Nothing wrong with the cartridge. Is just not supported very well by the firearms industry.

Is a hand-loaders cartridge.

Stick with it, and become the expert.

A 22 Remington Jet would be a hoot on a Blackhawk frame! Done by the right pistol smith with a 10-12 inch barrel . . .

RJ

The Model 53s are uncomfortable in noise level but not as bad a Blackhawk 30 Carbine.
What would be neat is have a Ruger Hawkeye rebarreled to Jet and have a pair. 256 Win and 22Jet.

Ruger Blackhawk in 30 Carbine was the worst decision Ruger firearms ever made while Bill SR. was still alive (IMO). Horrible loud (357 Magnum with light bullets gets a close 2nd place) from a revolver!
I still think the cartridge would work good in a semi-auto handgun.
The military gets "first dibs" though. And it worked to the satisfaction of a bunch of solders!

Oh well.

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I'm sorry.
I just changed the subject. Didn't mean to, but just got absorbed reading.
Dang!

Well, start a Blackhawk Carbine thread then. I've owned a few (rounds) of one.

Cheezywan said:

Edit:
I'm sorry.
I just changed the subject. Didn't mean to, but just got absorbed reading.
Dang!

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All good Cheezy, appreciate the effort.

Well then.
This would seem like a good opportunity to offer my opinion regarding muzzle-brakes on hand-grenades.

The 22 Jet was also one of the three chambering offered in the Marlin Model 62 lever action. 22Jet (planned, at least, may not have made public release?) , 256 Win. (I have one) and 30 Carbine. Very Rare in Jet (if it exists?)! Doesn't work well in Smith 53 due to taper induced 'setback' when fired with full power loads, cylinder can lock up. Good in TC Contender and would be a neat Hawkeye. Parent case and dies makes ammo a non-issue for handloaders.
I have a 30 Carbine Blackhawk...awful noise!

The Model 53 S&W was a failure in everything but workmanship. It was a handloader's nightmare with cases stuck to the standing breech and primers puckered into the firing pin hole. My boss at my first gunsmithing job had one and I think all his kin had one and they all tried to blow up crows but just locked up their guns instead. The M53 never became the car- friendly varminter it was intended to be.

"The M53 never became the car- friendly varminter it was intended to be."

Could you elaborate a bit about that. If you want to?

For a kid growing up in the South, rifles were VERY rare. Deer were run by dogs and shot with buckshot. Sometimes a guy would have a Carbine and the local bear hunter carried a M43 Hornet. "Varmints" were possums in the chicken house, mostly.
When I came home from the Army and GS school as a genuine rifleman, I found several guys were into shooting crows, but the real interest was shooting Indian Cow Egrets which had become thick in just very few years. We had several customers, the boss and his two brothers that bought M53s to shoot Egrets and crows from their mobile tree stands but all gave problems with their handloads.
The XP-100 killed all interest in the very sensitive revolvers and became a fairly common 'truck gun'. .222 Rem made from XP actions and M600 stocks and triggers were a hit and I built five the first year.

There was also the .224 Harvey K-Chuck conversion, which seemed to work quite well and avoid the cartridge "set-back" against the revolver's recoil shield, which made the .22 Jet something of a problem

Been a while since I compared balistics of the Jet vs the Hornet. Since I shoot hornet in a contender, I'm thinking there would reall be no advantage in having a Jet barrel as well. Never know........ if I ever find a Jet at a reasonable price......

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Blackhawk355 said:

Since I shoot hornet in a contender, I'm thinking there would reall be no advantage in having a Jet barrel as well.

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There's your problem BH, if you try to justify everything with practical thought, you will limit yourself, and your possessions severly!! Check Ed's Contenders for a Jet barrel, he has one shown under 10" Octagon.....:

P.S. I've had a 10" Octagon 22 K-Hornet TC barrel since 1971, great little cartridge.

I had a m53. It had horrible blast, mediocre accuracy and was a pain to reload.
A factory 22 Hornet in a Contender is far superior. Factory 256 Winchester in a Ruger Hawkeye with a custom base and 2x Leupold is only good for 2.5 inch groups, at best. Again, the Contender will do much better.
My very early Ruger #1 in 30-06 is a one inch rifle. It has never been altered or tuned. Get a good gunsmith to check yours out.