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Hello every one, I have just started reloading and have a few questions. Iam reloading for my .243 & using Hornady V-MAX 75gr projectiles and using 46grians of AR2209 powder. They shoot really well but they seem to smoke a fear bit arfter firing. On the box is says Smokeless Rifle Powder. Am I doing it the right way????? What powder and weight could I use using these Projectiles.??? Any feed back would be appreciated. Cheers Rick.
 

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Rick,

Smokeless powder is only called that in comparison to black powder, which creates a big cloud of smoke, when you fire a round charged with it. A little bit of smoke is normal, even using a "smokeless" powder. I presume you used a reloading manual to select that recipe and it looks like it would be a fairly decent choice, so yes, you seem to be doing it the right way. :)

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Welcome to the forum. As Broom says, smokeless is not completely smokeless. Also, any oil or cleaning compounds remaining in the barrel will generate a little extra smoke. I have been reloading the 243 since 1968. I have had excellent results with H4831 in this round.
 

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Iowaloha Judge,
Real nice to meet ya.

I know little of AR2209 behind a 75 grain Hornaday bullet for 243 Winchester.

If you have load data, go for it!

Don't fear a little smoke from a "smokeless" load. Just means it has "less smoke" than black powder did!

Welcome to the forum.

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Thanks everyone for your comments, The reloading book that i have been working from is NICK HARVEY'S PRACTICAL RELOADING MANUAL. I allso tried some Hornady 95gr SST with
43grains of ar2209 powder. They smoked as well and grouped really well.
Hi Jodum, My reloading book does not have that powder in it, what loads worked for you?
Cheers Rick.
 

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If your book has IMR 4350 in it, try some of that too for heavier bullets; Varget works well for lighter ones in the two I load for at the moment.

Mind you, if it ain't broke don't fix it. You can spend a lot of time and money in reloading trying to get another couple of tenths off the group size. But those powders work well in the .243 for me.
 

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I believe AR2209 is what Hodgdon is currently selling as H4350?
 

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Judge,

As Mike said, H4350 is AR2209. H4831 is AR2213. Same powders bought and repackaged under the Hodgdon brand here. The latter shows being a little slower than optimum for the 75's, but will give you a slight edge with the 95's.

Code:
Hodgdon            |  Military  | Winchester            | Thales
                   |  & OEM     |                       | (ADI)
___________________|____________|_______________________|________
[U]HP-38              | OBP231     | 231                   |
H110               |  WC296     | 296                   |
H414               |  WC760     | 760                   |
H380               |  WC852     |                       |
Lil' Gun           | OBP516     |                       |
Hybrid 100V        | SHP771     |                       |
HS-6               |  WC540     |                       |
H335               |  WC844     |                       |
BL-C(2)            |  WC846     |                       |
Titewad            | OBP132     |                       |
Tightgroup         | OBP242     |                       |
Longshot           | OBP473     |                       |
US869              |  WC869     |                       |
                   |  WAA90     |  WST                  |
                   | WXC170     |  WSF                  |
                   | OBP124     |  AALite (WFL)         |
                   | OBP465     |  Super-Handicap (WSH) |
                   |  WC760     |  760                  |
                   |  WC748     |  748                  |         |
                   | WMR780     |  Supreme 780          |__  _____|
                   | SMP224     |  AutoComp             |______  _|
Clays              |            |                       | AS30N___|
International Clays|            |                       | AS50N___|
Universal Clays    |            |                       | AS70N___|
H4227              |            |                       | AR2205__|
H4198              |            |                       | AR2207__|
Benchmark          |            |                       |  BM2____|
H322               |            |                       | AR2219__|
H4895              |            |                       | AR2206H_|
Varget             |            |                       | AR2208__|
H4350              |            |                       | AR2209__|
H4831              |            |                       | AR2213__|
H4831SC            |            |                       | AR2213SC|
H1000              |            |                       | AR2217__|
Retumbo            |            |                       | AR2225__|
H50BMG             |            |                       | AR2218[/U]__|
 

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Thanks for the advice everyone, I will tell you how i go!! I will have to reload twice the amount now my Bother just bought a Windchester 70 Coyote lite stainless fluted in a .243 More fun. Cheers Rick.
 

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The 243 is a great caliber. I shoot H414 and Sierra 85gn HPBT for "long" range ground hog. Longest kill was 305 yards. In Western PA with the hills, trees, and rivers, 300 yards is as far as you can see sometimes.
 

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I tend to lean to the IMR line of powder, apple didnt fall to far from the tree I guess. I use IMR 4895, Nosler 70 BT in my Rem 700. Great groundhog round. As someone mentioned earlier not to many shots outside of 300yds here in Western NY.
 
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