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recently came across a set of 25-222 dies in the used die pile at the gunshop. piqued my curiosity. Does anyone have any experience with this cartridge? I am thinking I may have to find a inexpensive way to give it a try, a handi-rifle or encore barrel maybe? Any information on this cartridge would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 

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John Wooters is originator and fan of the 25-222 Copperhead.  He was pushing a 60gr bullet from an 18 inch barrel to just over 2940 fps.  The 100 gr Speer achieved about 2450 fps.  Seemed he loved the little rifle (Sako L-46 action 18 inch barrel) for coyotes, bobcat, turkeys and such.  I have both articles he wrote that were included in Wildcat Cartridges II (which includes a smashing article by our own James Gates about the 25 Krag Improved!!&#33<!--emo&;)--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->.  If you don't have the book, or can't find a copy, send me a personal message and I'll try to get a copy of the articles to you.

The 25/222 articles contain about 40 loads and lots of good information from the innovator himself.
 

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thanks a bunch! I will be out and about today and will see if I can find that book, sounds like a good read. I appreciate the offer for article copies, if I can't find it I will certainly get back to you.
 

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after reading the articles alyeska338 graciously sent, I have decided to build the rifle. purchased the used set of dies for a whopping $21 and after talking to my gunsmith, decided I may be able to skip the custom reamer (the man is incredible on a lathe). the hard part is deciding on a platform. one idea I had was to buy a inexpensive rifle (ruger,savage...) in .222 for the action and stock and a 25 cal barrel blank with factory contour.  also considered an encore or nef barrel...cost will probably be close and would rather have a bolt gun. anyone have any other ideas?
 

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Yeah here comes the broken record -- Ruger No.1 or No.3.  I think either of those would just be a handy rifle.  Especially the No.1A or RSI.  Single shots though.  Of course if you have a ton of money burning a hole in your pocket, those Hagn single shot actions are really nice.

Just a thought.
 

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mtnquake,

Take a look at the CZ 527, especially the full stock. The value in these little rifle is amazing. They are nicely done and if you really shop less than $500 for some models. The conversion to 25-222 could be done either by reboring or rebarreling. I was going to have one done in 7mm TCU, until the .416 TAS caused a diversion.

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minquake, Since the case head of a .222 and .223 are the same you have a huge selection of rifles to choose from for this project. alyeska338 has already beaten me to the punch by suggesting the Ruger #1. How about a Ruger International, full length stock? That would be nice but this rifle does not come in .222 or .223. Your project sounds like a lot of fun. I have always had an intrest in .25 small game rifles. please let us know how it turns out once the rifle is complete.
 

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Kimber is supposed to have a neat little bolt gun in 257 Kimber which is a 25/222 Magnum cased wildcat.

But this suggestion is probably counter-productive. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->

I'm about to start playing around with a 6.5 wildcat on a 5.6X50R Magnum case in the Contender. Case is basically a rimmed 222 Magnum but 3mm longer in length. I'll be using 6.5 TCU dies and a 357 Mag carbide die to size the case webs when needed. There is also one that uses the 257 TCU dies for a 25 cal. version.


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Kimber is supposed to have a neat little bolt gun in 257 Kimber which is a 25/222 Magnum cased wildcat.

counter productive, maybe...interesting, definately. I think I like the ruger #1 idea provided I can find one at a reasonable price...I know where a well used .223 lives...the decisions are killing me!<!--emo&:D--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo-->
 

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If you go with the Ruger #1, grab onto that used one if it's good shape.  The barreled actions from Brownell's are nearly as expensive as the full rifle.  It would be sweet, especially a RSI (full mannlicher wood with 20" barrel) or 1A.  Be just like kissing the prom queen.
 

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it has taken a while, but I found a ruger #3 finally. I will be shopping for barrels soon. thanks for all the information and suggestions!
 

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Great. A No. 3, eh? Make sure you get us some pics of posted here. I'm really interested to hear how all of this turns out. Are you going for 24, 22 or 20" barrel? Though I haven't had a No. 3, I have owned quite a few No. 1's over the years and still got a few, and personally feel that little 20" barreled RSI version is a really sweet handling and quick pointing rifle. Will you be shooting cast, jacketed or both bullets in this rifle? Wooters seemed to get good velocities out that 18" barrel of his Sako, and I'm not sure how the No. 3 handles, but think the 20" barrel on the No. 1 is about as short as I would go on it. If the barrel was any shorter, I think the contour might have to be increased to maintain the great handling characteristics. Just a personal opinion.
 

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Update?

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Have you got that 25 Copperhead up and running yet? Keep us posted on the package. Inquiring minds want to know.
 

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hello alyeska388

I am lloydwright498 and I have a 25-222 built from a 222 Remington Savage M340 back in 1998, I have been reloading my cartridges with the data of my 222 and I only use this rifle a few times a year, yet lately I have been wanting to change my reloading habits to perhaps a better load would it be possible for you to also send me some loading data for the 25-222 ?.
If you would do this for me I would be very thankful.

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The .222 Remington has been necked down to .14 Cal. and necked up to .30 Caliber. I am sure it has been necked up to even larger calibers. I've read an article about necking up various cartridges and I remember the .25-.222 being mentioned in a back issue of GUN DIGEST back in the late 1960's around 1967.
 

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This thread is originally from 2002...that has to be some kind of record. :D
 

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.250 Myra Sako L46 Australian

mtnquake,
John Wooters is originator and fan of the 25-222 Copperhead. *He was pushing a 60gr bullet from an 18 inch barrel to just over 2940 fps. *The 100 gr Speer achieved about 2450 fps. *Seemed he loved the little rifle (Sako L-46 action 18 inch barrel) for coyotes, bobcat, turkeys and such. *I have both articles he wrote that were included in Wildcat Cartridges II (which includes a smashing article by our own James Gates about the 25 Krag Improved!!&#33<!--emo&;)-->;)' src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" valign="absmiddle"><!--endemo-->. *If you don't have the book, or can't find a copy, send me a personal message and I'll try to get a copy of the articles to you.

The 25/222 articles contain about 40 loads and lots of good information from the innovator himself.
I would be interested in the articles .I have a Sako L46 in .250 Myra
 
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