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I am a fan of the .274 bullet. It just seems like a low recoil 274 bullet in a 308 case (115 grain bullet at 2400 ft/sec) is begging to be made. This would be a natural fit for the Browning light weight BLR. The BLR should weigh in around 7 1/2 pounds with scope. If you reload, the cartridge could be pushed to 2900 ft/sec.

Have I just missed this cartridge being made? If not, why is not being made?
 

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What is a 0.274" bullet? Did you mean 264?
 
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I don't know of a .274 bullet but .264s and .284s are plentiful and already loaded as the .260 Remington and 7-08 Winchester. Maybe a .270-308 (.277 bullet) could be wedged in the crack just for fun. There would be no ballistic benefit to it.
 

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I am sorry. I said .274, but I meant .277. Same bullet diameter as a 270 Winchester cartridge.

OK, I will try to answer a few questions. I have a Remington 700 rifle in 270 Winchester and I own a Remington 700 rifle in 260 Remington. 260 Remington is a good cartridge, but it seems like the blood trails are a little shorter with 270 Winchester. However, I like the short action of the 260 and usually pick up the 260 when I head for the deer stand.

I tried a 7mm/08 in a BLR, but I could not tell any difference from my 308 BLR and traded the 7mm/08 for another rifle. Later after a close encounter with a large black while deer hunting, I decided I needed a larger cartridge than 308 and traded it for a 358 BLR. I know it is easy to say 308 is plenty of cartridge when you are in a tree stand, but when you step around bush and you are 15 yards from a big black bear, it is not! You just have to trust me on this one. And no, I did not shoot the bear.

I understand why some people would say there is no need for a 277/308, but why bring out 6.5 Creedmore when you already have the 260 Remington and 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser? It seems like a 277/308 cartridge for short action rifles would be a nice fit between 6.5 Creedmore and 7mm/08, and I am just wondering why someone has not tried it yet.
 

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I would imagine its 'been tried' a lot. The 308 case wasn't out of diapers yet and had been necked down and up in every step. I'm sure it's a fine round and no reason not to build one. 4D has the reamers.
 

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The similar .270 Savage has been around for over 60 years, as has the .270/.308. More recently, the .270 Redding was introduced (another .270-.308). But none became factory cartridges - why not? Probably because the .277” bore has never been that popular other than the old .270 WCF. The Weatherby version has been around a long time but never was produced in enough numbers for a similar non-propriety cartridge to sell well. The fact remains that the .277” bore is only .007” away from the immensely popular 7mm, and not that much bigger than the not-until-recently-popular 6.5 bore. I’m sure it’s a great round, but talk about a niche cartridge.....



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I've always believed the .270 Winchester became legendary in just a very few years because it was an odd bore size and every bullet made was made for .270 Win velocities. "Failures" in 270 Win are scarce as bat tracks.
The Weatherby messed that up and 'hair in the air' stories were common when small deer acted like prairie dogs when shot. A small cased .270 would suffer failures in the other direction, IMO.
 

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I had my heart set on a 270-308 at about the time I joined this forum , mainly due to our deer laws and the fact I go after foxes in the sheep more than deer but I want to be legal on deer .
I ended up with a 270-303 that I like very much.
Virtually the same thing .
708’s are not popular around my neck of the woods by any means.
i have talked to a gentleman who built and used a 270-308 for years and loved it.
He wore it out and moved on to another chambering to spice things up like we do.
Why any one bothers spending the time it takes to type reasons why the 270-308 is not good is beyond my comprehension.
Obviously it would be fine.

22-08 , 27-08 and a win 358 would be a pretty good stable .

add a 22lr and you are good to go .

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Why one spends the time to type out reasons why a .270-.308 is a great cartridge (or a poor cartridge) is.....well, it’s the reason the forum exists - free expression and the sharing of ideas and experiences. If you don’t want to read about it, don’t. Comprehension matters. ;)



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Cartridge 'families' offer a unique opportunity to 'standardize' a hunting arsenal: Just fer instance-- 243, 7-08, 308 and 358 in identical Model 7 Remingtons or short M77 or M70s. Long actions could be 25-06, 270, 30-06 an 35 Whelen.
Or wildcat with 25 Souper, 270-08 and 338-08. Small Medium and Large. The rest is just gingerbread. ... And fascinating.
 
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Why one spends the time to type out reasons why a .270-.308 is a great cartridge (or a poor cartridge) is.....well, it’s the reason the forum exists - free expression and the sharing of ideas and experiences. If you don’t want to read about it, don’t. Comprehension matters. ;)



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I doubt the forum was started to tell people not to build a 27,08 .😊
 

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I hunted with a .270 Winchester for many years. Loved it! Great on anything up to and including Elk. I have a friend who killed Moose with a .270 Win. Someone hunting with a properly loaded .270 can't go wrong on our continent. With the possible exception of the big bears. I also had a Model 70 Winchester re-chambered to .270 Ackley Improved and hunted with it also. This was an amazingly high velocity, accurate round. With both 130 and 140 grain bullets I could achieve 3200 feet per second. Both loads shot three rounds into 5/8" at 100 yards from the bench.
 

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I am sorry. I said .274, but I meant .277. Same bullet diameter as a 270 Winchester cartridge.

OK, I will try to answer a few questions. I have a Remington 700 rifle in 270 Winchester and I own a Remington 700 rifle in 260 Remington. 260 Remington is a good cartridge, but it seems like the blood trails are a little shorter with 270 Winchester. However, I like the short action of the 260 and usually pick up the 260 when I head for the deer stand.

I tried a 7mm/08 in a BLR, but I could not tell any difference from my 308 BLR and traded the 7mm/08 for another rifle. Later after a close encounter with a large black while deer hunting, I decided I needed a larger cartridge than 308 and traded it for a 358 BLR. I know it is easy to say 308 is plenty of cartridge when you are in a tree stand, but when you step around bush and you are 15 yards from a big black bear, it is not! You just have to trust me on this one. And no, I did not shoot the bear.

I understand why some people would say there is no need for a 277/308, but why bring out 6.5 Creedmore when you already have the 260 Remington and 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser? It seems like a 277/308 cartridge for short action rifles would be a nice fit between 6.5 Creedmore and 7mm/08, and I am just wondering why someone has not tried it yet.
There are a number of .277 caliber wildcats. Here's a few of them: 27 GPC, based on an enhanced 6.8 SPC case. There is the .270 AR, based on the .308 case for the AR-15. There is a .277 based on the 6.5x47 Lapua case for the AR-15. All of those are in roughly the same category performance wise as the .308. There is also the .277 Wolverine, based on the 5.56 NATO case. It is limited to about 300 yds, but is an excellent performer in its window, and has the advantage of being capable of suppressed heavy bullet use as well if you get the faster twist barrel. You can find information on all of those at mdws.forumchitchat.com. the .270 AR was designed by Harrison Beane of ARP fame, and can provide data on that one, www.arperformance.com. I have the Wolverine in an AR, and its great. The 27 GPC would also be a good choice for the short action Rem. Bruce at MDWS can chamber barrels in these for the AR as well as Rem and Savage bolt rifles.
 

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I have a 270-08 and love it.I've killed every gave animal in BC with it from gopher to grizzly.Stuff some Nosler partions in there and you're good to go.
When I was a kid my great uncle gave me lots of hunting magazines to read.Outdoor Life had lots of Jack O'Connor hunts with a 270 Winchester.I never liked long actions so I built a short action 270-08.
I probably would have done a 264-08 at the time but bullets were hard to find.Any sport shop had 130 gr. 270 bullets.
I have a lot of loading data compiled over the last 40 years shootin' this pipe.Matter of fact I have a load ladder of 10 rounds loaded I want to try tomorrow with 130 SSTs and 6.5 Staball powder.
 

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I've enjoyed the discussion here. Seems that we all just likes what we likes 😁. I had some "pairings" for years; Encore with 25/06 and .35 Whelen barrels, Ruger M77s in 30/06 and .35 Whelen, BLRs in 7/08 and .358, M70 FWs in 7/08 and 30/06. CZ550 FSs in 6.5x55 and 9.3x62.

I've owned BLRs in 7/08, .308 and .358. But only the the .358 remains now. It always seemed to me that I'd wonder why I was using the 7/08 or .308 when the .358 was a bigger (better?) Hammer 🔨.

But, of course, that's only my way of thinking. The .270, while a great cartridge, is not one of my favorites. However, I own several .270s and among them some pricey, beautiful bolt actions.

I've done a good bit of hunting with my .270s, but of late I seem to prefer my larger bores and lever guns for my deer, hog and bear hunting. Next week's gun opener in Kentucky will find me clutching a Ruger #1A in 06 that is a special addition for me having been owned by my very close Buddy who passed one year ago today.

That is, unless it's raining...lol. I'm not taking it out in bad weather. If the weather sucks as already forecast, it will likely be an all weather lam/SS .300WM, a cartridge surprisingly not already among the 25 or so others I've taken big game with.

Sorry about the ramblings here, but I did enjoy reading the thread and discussion within. Thanks 🇺🇸
 
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Always enjoy your "ramblings", Tnhunter -

My modest rifle collection is nowhere near as vast as yours and always interested in how the various chamberings compare to one another. I'm pretty much a moderate bore guy with most in the 6mm to 7mm rage.
 
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