Whats your opinions on this chambering (30-378 Weatherby) both as a long range target and hunting round? Thanks, Mike
Maybe next to the 7.82 WarbirdLong Range Hunting, it is the best of the .30's.
I doubt you'd get that with the Weatherby, even their factory ammo isn't that fast with a 180. I'd bet the RUM is closer to it than you think. You are right though, the RUM is hands down a better choice IMO from the cost of rifles to ammo and for not much difference I can see and for far less cost. If I wanted to spend that king of money for the Weatherby, I'd go for the true king, the Warbird.In reality, the 30-378 is only about 100 fps better than the RUM. I love Roy's guns and cartridges, but for me the RUM just made more sense.
180gr bullet with 100.5gr of Retumbo for 3350 fps
180gr bullet with 113gr of Retumbo for 3460 fps
I don't know about walk all over, but will it do anything the RUM can't? It does have I think about 20 grns more case capacity so yeah it will win the velocity in the end with raw horsepower, at least for the handloader. But in factory ammo, I don't see much difference and for the average hunter looking for a super 30 mag, the RUM is the way to go. I looked on gunbroker and the cheapest Weatherby that's NIB is $1128, the RUM, $590. There's a Sako Warbird listed for $1500. Double tap has ammo for the RUM with the 200 grn AB at 3200 fps for about $62. Nosler loads that bullet for the Weatherby at 3150 fps for about $130. Lazzeroni lists their 200 grn at 3350 fps but I think that's a custom load. Their 180's are $109 a box (and 3550 fps). I have a friend who has a Warbird and loves it. We were going to go on a prarie dog shoot and he was going to bring it to see how far out he could hit one.I learned about overbore reloads with my .257 Weatherby Mag. If given the PROPER powder, the 30-378 will walk all over the .300 UM. With the heavier bullets, it will really walk over the .300 UM. In a situation like this we are talking 200 FPS or so. Which is really meaningless but if anyone wants to use that against me, then you are beat again, as the .300 WM is as good as anything and more accurate on average than all the rest. Just food for thought. I'd never even look at Lazzeroni as they are too small a company. Maybe if I could handload to their numbers. My options are .300 WM and 30-378 Weatherby Mag. if more is needed.
Well if you reeaalllly want to get technical, it's still a 50 caliber, shooting a sabot doesn't change it into a 30 caliber, just like '06 accelerators don't change it into a 22 centerfire. Besides it's fun to poke you with a stick now and then...Well, if you want to get technical. You can use a Sabot with a 180gr .30 cal bullet, in a .50 BMG and get 5000 fps.
Well... to get technical... does the RUM do anything the 300WM can't? I'm pretty sure both can wallop an elk at a lot further than I'd ever attempt a shot at one and can shoot targets at 1000yds with no problemsI don't know about walk all over, but will it do anything the RUM can't?
The 30-378 Weatherby is pure unadulterated ridiculousness, almost like building a 340 Weatherby for 85lb forkhorn eastern whitetails...
There is no need nor any excuse for that kind of stuff... you can not be sane and like getting kicked with that stuff.
Matt, usually you and I see eye to eye on most things. Just this one, we differ. I really do enjoy the more powerful cartridges. I GAVE my 22-250 away because it bored me. Why push a 55gr at 3300 when I can push a 180gr at 3300
Where was I when you did this! and where did the line form?
Why not push a 55 grain at 3700 fps and shoot 300 rounds at a prairie dog town in a day without bruises? There are reasons for choosing different cartridges that have nothing whatsoever to do with some particular velocity.
I actually agree that there is no rational reason for the existence of the .30-378 for hunting except "mine is bigger than yours". Long range targets may make sense, but for hunting anywhere it is just silly.