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Looking at maybe picking one of these up, it has a beautiful action, silky smooth. I however do not know anything about the caliber. What could a fellow living in interior Alaska use such a beauty for? I only own shooting guns, so I am giving thought to having it bored out to 45/70 as it does not wear the original barrel.
 

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The 33WCF is a 45-70 case necked to.338". There are flat nosed jacketed and cast available for reloading in this diameter. I certainly would research the round before I turned it into a 45-70. The 33WCF took its fair share of moose and bear. The 348win was developed to take its place in a modern action. I wouldn't consider the 1886 the equivalent to the current Marlin Leverguns in 45-70 for strength. It is stronger then the Trapdoor Springfield,tho. Buy the 1886 and a Marlin in 45-70. The 33wcf belongs in interior Alaska. Please research the 33WCF. Elmer Keith liked it and to rebarrel the 1886 would be close to the new Marlin Prices. Leverguns have a lot more machine work involved when rebarreling.
 

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The Winchester 1886 in 33 Winchester was, and is, a great rifle! I had a lightweight half mag one time and I liked it better than the Mod 71 in .348! There were two types of actions.....one was the early case hardened action and the other a later blue steel. I feel the later blue steel action in the same class as the mod 71. The .33 Win was introdiced in 1902 and dropped in 1936, when the .348 was introduced. The old factory load was a 200 gr soft point @ 2200'/", but that can be upped with todays slower burn powders. Factory specs called for a .333" bullet, but there is some controversy as whether this is correct. All the old Lyman books called for mold # 338320, which was gas checked. The barrel should be slugged to check proper size @ .001/.002" larger than groove dia. The original load can be duplicated with a 200 gr. bullet with 45 grs of IMR 4895/4064 @ 2200'/" or 40 grs of IMR 3031 @ 2100'/". This is the level for case hardened actions. A 5% increase should be correct for blue steel late actions. Please don't chop up that great old rifle!
Best Regards, James

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I agree totally... don't butcher a fine old rifle!!! That gun was tailored for cast bullets if ever a bottlenecked cartridge was!   Our 339"-235g LFNGC bullet fits the throats of those old rifles nicely, while still allowing the bulelt to be retained in the case neck.  The velocities are perfect for cast use, and if annealing the nose of the bullets will act much like a Nosler Partition bullet on game!  Brass isn't an issue as it can be easily formed, and the cartridge isn't fussy about loads.

Great gun, great old cartridge that was upstaged by gunwriters like so many others.... we won't go there right now!

God Bless,

Marshall
 

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Thank you for the replies. I am pretty much convinced that I should buy this rifle and shoot it as is. The only reason I was considering having it rebored was for the extra power offered by the 45/70 given where I live and the fact that I share space with some big bears. I think it would probably be a good enough moose round, better than the 30wcf. Thanks again.
 
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