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I just put some money down on a marlin 336 in 35 rem at my local gun shop,I have never seen one like it before .It has no checkering and a half magazinewith a longer than normal barrel,it has a microgroove barrel.
I am buying it for my 14 year old and would like to know if any one has any loading info for lead and jacketed bullets as I haveno experence with this cartridge at all,also what size would a lead bullet have to be for the microgroove barrel to be accurate?
 

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Welcome to our merry band!

I will defer to handloading the .35 Remington to my good friend Mr. James Gates, who has infinitely more experience with this cartridge than I. However I can comment on your particular rifle. Yours is a Model 336A, with a 24" barrel and six-shot magazine. It was introduced by Marlin in 1948 and continued in production until 1962. Reintroduced in 1973, the 336A saw its final demise in 1980.
 

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Well,Now.....Bill, thank you for the kind words!
Shoalbass..The Marlin .35 you mentioned is a great rifle to start the 14 year old out on. Many of us on this forum feel that the .35 remington is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, brush cartridge ever to be made. In 2008 it will be 100 years old! The grand old cartridge is just pure pleasure to work with. It can be loaded with 158 gr. .357 pistol bullets all the way up to the famous 200 gr Remington Cor-Lok. It will be a rifle the 14 year old can "grow into" It is also a great cast bullet gun if you keep the bullets "hard"
We shoot, and have tested on game, the Beartooth .358" 185 gr FNGC in various .35 Remington rifles...all shot it well!
We push it up around what the jacketed bullet gives for velocity! However, that bullet can be loaded down to .357 Mag levels for training and plinking.
Here are some of our favorite loads:
(1).357" Speer 158 gr jacketed soft point(pistiol bullet)- 31 grs of IMR 3031 @ 2000'/"( 20" barrel)
(2).358" Beartooth 185 gr FNGC-28 grs of Re7
(2).358" Beartooth 185 gr FNGC-34 grs of Re7
(3).358" Hornady, Sierra, Rem. CL( best) 200 gr jacketed bullet-34 grs Re7 or 37 grs IMR 3031 @ 2184/2080'/"( 22" barrel)  
The 185 gr Beartooth FNGC is perfect for training. It should be remember though these different bullets will not impact at the same place and re-sighting may be necessary.
I see you are from the great state of Georgia...my late fathers people are from the Bibb and Jones county area, coming there in 1800. I'm kin to all the Gates, Dewberry, Roquemore and Bazemore Clans up there! Also the Coleman, Sheppard, and Sykes Clans over toward Savannah.I lived in Macon for many years, working for Winchester-Western. We killed some real big deer up around Round Oak.
Keep in touch.......Best Regards, James
 

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I appreciate the informationabout the gun and the loads.MY son already has a .243 and took his first deer last season,a135lb doewith a perfect chest shot but it took us about an hour to find her,she ran over 150 yardswith hardly any bloodtrail eventhough it was a through and through shot.
I have a Marlin 38-55 and he wants to shoot somrthing larger like dad,so when I saw the .35 I took him to lookat it and he loved it,so when the govt lets me have some of my money back its his.Thanks shoalbass
 

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Hey Guys,

I've been shooting a Marlin in .35 Rem since 1970 having taken both deer and black bear with it.  Much of my hunting has been done with a Speer 180 grain flatnose over IMR 3031 for about 2200 fps.  Never had to take a second shot.

In the last couple of years, I've begun to experiment with cast bullets, and am going out this fall with some cast flatnosed.  I expect similar results based on my experiences to date.

Great rifle....it was my first and still the one I reach for when I go into the field be it for big game or groundhogs.

El Lobo in NM
 

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El Lobo....Just for the fun of it..pick up a box of 125 gr jacketed - 43 grs IMR 3031 ( out of Speer) @ 2500+'/" and watch those jack rabbits loose their minds!
Best Regards, James
 

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Hi, Shoalbass:
   I can heartily recommend Mr. Gate's load of 37 grains of 3031 with the Remington 200 grain Core-Lokt. It's what I use myself.  I haven't, but should, try Reloader 7.  The Speer 180 grain flat nose is a good bullet too, and shoots flatter. I can't recommend the 200 grain Sierra or Hornady. They're too tough for reliable expansion past 100 yards. For a very light training load use 10.0 grains of Red Dot with a 158 grain jacketed hollow point.  Point of impact will change. Less than 10.0 grains isn't consistent.

   I find that factory loads don't go over 1950 fps and handloading really pays with this cartridge. Figure that a good handload is going as fast at 35 - 40 yards as a factory load is at the muzzle.

   One of the neighbour's kids gut shot a doe with my gun last fall and it still anchored it long enough for a follow-up shot.

Bye
Jack
 

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Well I payed out the rifle yesterday and brought it home to very excited kid,my care package from Midway should be arriving on tuesday so we can load her up and see how she shoots.
You were right about it being amodel 336A with a 24in barrel,thanks for all the information, when we shoot her I will let you know how my son did. Thanks to all
shoalbass
 

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Don't forget to post a picture this fall when your youngster tags a six-pointer with that .35! Best of luck with your new Marlin.
 

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This is the report I promised on my sons .35rem,first off this rifle is a tack driver with RL-7 and remington 200gr core-lock bullets.Over my F-1 chrony they averaged 2229fps at 10 feet from the muzzle,at 50 yards a 3/4in group andmoved to 100yards averaged 1 1/4 and that gentlemen from a 14 year old!!!
     I never touched the rifle and have yet to fire it,Jordan my son did all the loading with me standing over his shoulder at the reloading bench,just to make sure every step was followed and the results proved to me he did it right.
I was shooting my 38-55 and some new bullets I just bought,245gr 18-20 hardness and was only grouping at 2 1/2 incheswith some really strange fliers about 4 inches outside the group.I was shooting IMR 4759 @ 24 grs ,over my chrony it clocked 1917fps average this as I discovered is to fast for the bullet I am shooting as it has no gascheck,so I willhave to back it down .
sorry I was so long winded just wanted to let you guys know we didand to also say thanks to all of you who have given me information and suggestions they have really helped.
Shoalbass
 

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Shoalbass,

That's sounds like a real winner you have on your hands. Or should I say your son's hands, 'cause I doubt Dad's gonna get much chance to shoot it!

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I would agree that your .38-55/245 load is going a bit fast for a plain base design. I would keep those under 1500 fps or so and use a GC bullet for the full power stuff. Did you experience any leading?
 
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