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I'm looking for a good whitetail load using one of Marshall's bullets for the 356 Winchester in a Marlin 336 ER microgroove, and I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Also, what size bullets seem to work best in the Marlin?

Thanks for any info you may have.

God bless,
Ken Rice
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Ken,

That rifle isn't fit for whitetails or cast bullets... in fact, I think that in the interest of safety I should buy it from you! :biggrin:

Actually, I love those guns, and they shoot cast superbly.  The throats are a bit too short for using anything above a .359"-210gLFNGC bullet, it won't handle the 250g pills without the bullet seated with the gas-check protruding below the base of the case neck.

However, the 185gFNGC, the 200g FNGC and the 210g LFNGC all make great venison venom in the .356 Winchester!  Make sure that you get your bullets .359" or even .3595" for the Micro-Groove rifling, and to fill the large diameter throats in these rifles.   Then those guns shoot cast bullets with perfection!

Try these for starters.  They've proven very reliable performers in the Marlin 336ER.

BTB .359"-185g FNGC/42.5g AA2015/Win Brass/WLRP/2441 fps

BTB .359"-200g FNGC/43.5g H322/Win Brass/WLRP/2374 fps

BTB .359"-210g LFNGC/40.0g AA2015/Win Brass/WLRP/2332 fps

These loads should be worked up to, beginning 5% under the listed charges and work up as pessure signs and load performance dictate.

Still and all... why not just spare yourself the misery of doing all this laborious load work, and sell the gun to me?

Take care, and it's good to hear from you!

God Bless,

Marshall
 

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Hi Marshall,

Can you tell me...would these loads be good in the old Big Bore 94 in 356 Winchester?  Sounds like they would be, but being new at this I always have to ask.  I want to shoot those 200 grainers with the wide nose.  I would so much appreciate any advice. THANK YOU for all of your help to me and so many others.
 

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Indeed, they will work great in the older BB 94's!  You might check the groove diameter and throat dimensions of that gun before buying bullets however, there was a little variance in the Winchester 94 BB's in this caliber depending upon date of manufacture.

Let us know how we can help!

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Marshall
 

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Hi Marshall,

Thanks very much for your detailed reply.  

Last week I saw this rifle sitting in the rack at a great little gun store near here (Seneca Arms),  and I just bought it on the spot.  I never expected to run into a 356 Marlin. A friend tells me there were only 2700 made, and as you know, I like to shoot Marlins.  Haven't shot it yet -- waiting on brass and dies.

Things are great but very busy here - planting trees, mowing, haying, cleaning out an old well as a water source for the barn, not to mention the day job which is going great guns.  It's a good kind of trouble to have, as they say.

Thanks again for your reply.

God bless,
Ken Rice
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Ken,
Marshall is correct in regards to bullet specs. and OAL when loading the Marlin 336ER in .356...I have had one for several years and absolutely love it and my dad has one as well. I have mine set up with Ashley scout scope base and Weaver QD rings. It also has Ashley "back up" rear sight and a front sight I made myself. The stock has been shortened slightly and a Pachmayr Decelerator pad installed...I have a Milt Sparks leather 5-round ammo cuff laced to the stock for extra ammo if needed. IMHO they are great rifles. Good luck with yours!
 

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Hi Chuck,

Thanks for your response.  I somehow didn't see your response, so I am sorry for the delayed reply.

I have a 444P and 1894P set up with AO lever scout mounts and AO ghost ring backups with a Leupold scout scope on the 444 with Warne QD rings and a Trijicon reflex sight on the 44 mag.  

I really love this combination -- especially with the Leupold. I always shot lever guns with iron sights until aging eyes opened up groups in recent years.

The forward scope position lets me  mount the rifle quickly and shoot it gracefully, something I never mastered with a rear-mounted scope, despite about 2000 rounds of offhand fire with a 4X33 scope on a Marlin 444.  

Even with low-powered scopes mounted at the rear, I always felt like  I was slow getting on target and slow getting to get back on target after the first shot.  

Anyway, I think Ashley could sell 10,000s of lever scout mounts to aging baby boomers if more people had a chance to try them.  

Well, thanks again for your reply, and I'll take a look at that Milt Sparks ammo cuff.  It sounds like a good idea.

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Ken Rice
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Ken,

That rifle isn't fit for whitetails or cast bullets... in fact, I think that in the interest of safety I should buy it from you! :biggrin:

Actually, I love those guns, and they shoot cast superbly. The throats are a bit too short for using anything above a .359"-210gLFNGC bullet, it won't handle the 250g pills without the bullet seated with the gas-check protruding below the base of the case neck.

However, the 185gFNGC, the 200g FNGC and the 210g LFNGC all make great venison venom in the .356 Winchester! Make sure that you get your bullets .359" or even .3595" for the Micro-Groove rifling, and to fill the large diameter throats in these rifles. Then those guns shoot cast bullets with perfection!

Try these for starters. They've proven very reliable performers in the Marlin 336ER.

BTB .359"-185g FNGC/42.5g AA2015/Win Brass/WLRP/2441 fps

BTB .359"-200g FNGC/43.5g H322/Win Brass/WLRP/2374 fps

BTB .359"-210g LFNGC/40.0g AA2015/Win Brass/WLRP/2332 fps

These loads should be worked up to, beginning 5% under the listed charges and work up as pessure signs and load performance dictate.

Still and all... why not just spare yourself the misery of doing all this laborious load work, and sell the gun to me?

Take care, and it's good to hear from you!

God Bless,

Marshall
I am a Lever Action specialist firearms dealer, and I have not seen a Marlin 356ER before last week when I saw one in another gun shop. They had no idea what they had, but I knew I had to have it. I bought her on the spot she is very nice good condition obviously had little use. She came with a cheap little scope, and I negotiated 100 rounds of Winchester 200GR Power-Point (S.P.), they still had the old price on them, “£12”. I took here on the range, fantastic fun, reasonable recoil but nothing too heavy, and at 50 m made a real tight group. I bought her to sell on, but I do not think I will part with here, best fun I have had for ages with a LA.
I intend to take here to Europe to do some Boar hunting so will save most of the Ammo.
I can not really use her down my gun club as they have a 1200 fps and lead bullet rule, so unless anyone know of a light lead load I am snookered. Ed
Oh, if anyone is interested in 356 ammo as above the other dealer had about 700 rounds in stock that he is selling real cheap, e-mail me on [email protected] or via my web site www.westernshootingsupplies.com if interested and I can give you their contact details in the UK
 
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