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T.A.P., I have one of the 16" carbines,set up as a house gun/truck gun,and have had the best luck with the federal hard cast factory stuff,in hand loads I use the 180 grains and the 200 grain byllets
I had mounted an old Leop 2x scout scope on it and at 75yards was getting around a 2" group with out playing with it much
 
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