I have a 444 and love it. Deer stand no chance overkill maybe but I love bigbore lever guns. My Brother just gave me his 35 rem nice gun (both marlins). But Im not sure I want to let go of my big nasty for the 35 what do you guys think.
35Rem vs 444Marlin
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Hey Rob, welcome here! You found yourself the best shooting forum on the internet!
I'm pretty inexperienced with guns still, but I have to ask: why get rid of anything?
If you have it you may as well keep it.
Do you care to elaborate a little more on the 444 vs 45-70? I understood that the .45-70 was more powerful, not the 444 (or was that even what you were talking about? ). I plan to get a Marlin 1895 Cowboy soon.
I'm pretty inexperienced with guns still, but I have to ask: why get rid of anything?
If you have it you may as well keep it. Do you care to elaborate a little more on the 444 vs 45-70? I understood that the .45-70 was more powerful, not the 444 (or was that even what you were talking about?
). I plan to get a Marlin 1895 Cowboy soon.Hey Rob, welcome to ShootersForum. Sounds like you've got a real dilemma, there!
All three of the rounds you mention are great for hunting deer at woods ranges of up to 150-200 yards, give or take. The 444 will typically have the most power, but a well-placed bullet from any of them, and it's 'game over'. I think your question is whether or not you should take the 35 out hunting, instead of the 444? Well, that mostly depends on what size hole you want in your venison, as both of them are more than capable of getting a deer on the ground for ya.
Get yourself a dartboard and divide it into three equal sections, then put on a blindfold...
All three of the rounds you mention are great for hunting deer at woods ranges of up to 150-200 yards, give or take. The 444 will typically have the most power, but a well-placed bullet from any of them, and it's 'game over'. I think your question is whether or not you should take the 35 out hunting, instead of the 444? Well, that mostly depends on what size hole you want in your venison, as both of them are more than capable of getting a deer on the ground for ya.
Get yourself a dartboard and divide it into three equal sections, then put on a blindfold...
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I'm fond of the big .444 too but what I'll feep is my 336 in .35.
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Owning and shooting both those calibers I'd have to recommend the .444 as the one that stays, should one have to move out
. They were both made to do very similar things, but the .444 does have a good bit more to offer, overall. Absolutely nothing wrong with the venerable .35 Rem, but IMO it pales to the .444 in overall usefulness. The .444LE load has right at 1,000 FPE more at the muzzle than the .35 LE. The .35 will take care of deer and black bear at woods ranges(up to 200yds), without breaking a sweat, but the .444, fed proper fodder, will also dispatch elk and moose at 200yds without breaking a sweat.
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.444 vs .45-70 ?
I have never shot a .444 , but if I remember the balistic info I have read , as far as bullet weight , the .444 about maxes out on bullet weight at the point the .45-70 starts .
Loaded to max Marlin pressure , the .45-70 will take anything in North America . And I suspect 90% of the game , world wide ?
Or it can be loaded down to just about any level of power you wish .
My standard cream puff load is 13.6 grains of Unique for 300 - 405 grain bullets .
God bless
Wyr
I have never shot a .444 , but if I remember the balistic info I have read , as far as bullet weight , the .444 about maxes out on bullet weight at the point the .45-70 starts .
Loaded to max Marlin pressure , the .45-70 will take anything in North America . And I suspect 90% of the game , world wide ?
Or it can be loaded down to just about any level of power you wish .
My standard cream puff load is 13.6 grains of Unique for 300 - 405 grain bullets .
God bless
Wyr
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That's a darn nice brother.
I think you'll find the .35 Remington to be just fine. Try a 180gr Speer over a charge of 3031. I have seen many a 336/.35 Remington that would shoot like a varmit rifle, and I think the 180gr Speer is one of the best bullets ever made for that cartridge. It's a really good deer bullet.
The .35 should do well for you at woods distances for deer. I might hesitate using it for bigger beasties, but my experience with the .35 is limited and other members might have a better working knowledge of the .35's capabilities. One other thought: The .35 is based on the 336 Model, while the .444 is the 1895 Model. There might be weight differences and handling differences between the two.
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444 vs 35
i got 30-30, 35 and 444. the 444 takes over from feral hog on up. there is no cmparison.. if u only hunt deer 35 is it. but if ur after bigger game go with the 444. i ll be headin south to fla. for a gator hunt. usin the 444.
i got 30-30, 35 and 444. the 444 takes over from feral hog on up. there is no cmparison.. if u only hunt deer 35 is it. but if ur after bigger game go with the 444. i ll be headin south to fla. for a gator hunt. usin the 444.
Thank you everyone. Thats all great info. I haven't shot the 35 yet but I just love the 444. I have had some back problems and the 45-70 just hits to hard. This past season I shot a buck with the 444 and the exit hole was the same size as the entry hole, deer ran 80 yards no blood I thought I missed until I saw a little hair. Weird every artical I have read about the 444 said I would probably loose some meat I guess I made a good shot. Thank you all again. Glad to be a part of this forum.
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You'll love the .35 if you need to move down in recoil. I have enjoyed mine taking hogs, deer, a turkey, jackrabbit, coyote, and no telling what all. There are a few cast bullet designs that really shine, and reduced loads are a pleasure.
Grab some factory R-P 200gr. round-nose to get acquainted, then save the brass. The journey begins!
Grab some factory R-P 200gr. round-nose to get acquainted, then save the brass. The journey begins!
I have owned one 35 and three 444s. I kept the 35 and sold the 444s. I hunt deer, hogs and black bear. The 35 will handle all three. However, I reload and have added about 250 ft/sec over standard factory ammo. I found the best reloading bullet for the 35 to be Remington 200 grain Core-lokt.
BigRob,
looks like you need to find a bigger gun safe.
You like the big bore so the 444 has to stay.
Some may disagree, but the 35 caliber is a medium bore. If you get into using cast bullets for hunting, the 35 is probably the most balanced as far as effectivness on big game that you will find. Hang onto that 35.
Just my $.02
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DP, fancy meeting you here!
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looks like you need to find a bigger gun safe.
You like the big bore so the 444 has to stay.
Some may disagree, but the 35 caliber is a medium bore. If you get into using cast bullets for hunting, the 35 is probably the most balanced as far as effectivness on big game that you will find. Hang onto that 35.
Just my $.02
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DP, fancy meeting you here!
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If you ever have a young or female (or both) shooter that you'd like to introduce to the mystique of the lever-action, the .35 Remington is a better trainer than a .444 or .45-70. Loaded with Remington's 150gr CL-PSP ammo, it is very flat shooting and has considerably less recoil compared to your big-bores. Loaded with .357 handgun bullets and a reduced powder charge, it is also an excellent small game weapon.
Keep 'em both.
Keep 'em both.
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