[tkbigbore]

Thinking about using a 300 grain jsp for hogs .how will this work ?

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=542224

good penetration .?. i wanted to use 320 grain cast but it want fire to well in a de 44

 

[wildhobbybobby]

That load will work splendidly on hogs of any size. No problemo, as long as you hit the hog where you should.

 

[MikeG]

I wouldn't have an issue taking that after hogs. Hope you get a big stinky one!!!!

 

[broom_jm]

Nope, you can't possibly kill a hog with a 300gr jacketed bullet out of a 44Mag...can't be done. Even if you hold it right up to his ear when you shoot, it will just bounce off and maybe make him dizzy, but then he's comin' for ya, so you better have a big ol' backup gun.

 

[crossfire]

Nope, you can't possibly kill a hog with a 300gr jacketed bullet out of a 44Mag...can't be done. Even if you hold it right up to his ear when you shoot, it will just bounce off and maybe make him dizzy, but then he's comin' for ya, so you better have a big ol' backup gun.

Not only would it be ineffective against hogs, I don't know how well it would work for deer. Maybe coyote or groundhogs. It takes at least a .357 Magnum for squirrel and rabbits now, you know. Flesh and bone game animals have been extinct since the late 60's. Wild game is made with kevlar skin over a stainless skeleton in a secret assembly factory run by aliens in Area 51 using Terminator technology. Carbon fiber over titanium is under development. Chuck Hawks developed an .825 a few years ago in anticipation of this.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/825_magnum.htm

 

[pruhdlr]

The BS Detector Is Engauged.......

......and ready for "incomeing".

I see that the ammo that you have linked to has 1126fpe.so......if you keep the intended hog UNDER 1126 pounds,the load should work just fine.

Actually I have killed dozens of hogs with my 44cal DE using the 300gr XTP and your choice should be "almost" as good. The bullet in those CorBons looks to be a Sierra(#8630). I have a couple of boxes left over from my Ruger 44 carbine daze.

That DE is a great hog gun in the very thick bamboo and fan palmettos that we have down here in our river swamps. I killed a 250+lb boar hog while on my knees pearing under the palmetto's. The range was 5-8 FEET. YEEEEEEOWZA !!!

Enjoy that gun and load. -----pruhdlr

 

[miestro_jerry]

Hogs are nasty critters, they can be mean, plus piss one off and you will find out they can climb trees. The last time I went hog hunting, I was using a 300 Mag rifle and had a Ruger Red Hawk with me.

DON'T SHOOT THE HOG IN THE HEAD! The skull of a wild boar is very thick and many bullets bounce off, then you have a upset pig.

Plus the area I went hog hunting in is also the area that many maryjane grower do their things, so there are booby traps here and there. Like barbed fish hooks at eye level.

Back to the hogs, don't go out by yourself hunting them, in your day pack make sure you have a cell phone, plares, GPS, trauma type first aid kit and what ever else you can think of. If you get caught by a wild boar or sow, you can get really hurt bad.

Jerry

 

[jwp475]

Hogs are nasty critters, they can be mean, plus piss one off and you will find out they can climb trees. The last time I went hog hunting, I was using a 300 Mag rifle and had a Ruger Red Hawk with me.

DON'T SHOOT THE HOG IN THE HEAD! The skull of a wild boar is very thick and many bullets bounce off, then you have a upset pig.

Plus the area I went hog hunting in is also the area that many maryjane grower do their things, so there are booby traps here and there. Like barbed fish hooks at eye level.

Back to the hogs, don't go out by yourself hunting them, in your day pack make sure you have a cell phone, plares, GPS, trauma type first aid kit and what ever else you can think of. If you get caught by a wild boar or sow, you can get really hurt bad.

Jerry

With all due respect a Hogs head is bone, not armor plate. A bullet may hit on enough angle to glance off, but not bounce off. A bullet strike straight on will shatter the skull and penetrate through, even on Grizz BTDT on both

 

[Georgvus]

44Mag 320gr JSP on Hogs

I have used 44 300gr GC Lee from a 19" barrel. No trouble with putting hogs down. It was cast at about Lyman No 2 alloy hardness. Given the large flat nose on the Lee, expansion was not an issue. Longest shot was around 70yds. I feel certain 320gr JSP will not let you down. I use 250gr Hornady XPT out of a Rossi 92 lever 45Colt at around 1500fps with positive results at a similar range and velocity to the foregoing 44.

 

[Wynn]

Even if the first shot did glance off you could always shoot again and again and again if needed. I know hogs are mean but the 44Mag with 300g, if loaded at over 1000fps is meaner. That being said I would not hunt even rabbit alone as I might fall break a leg or something and need help getting out of the woods.

 

[R.Clem]

I have yet to shoot a hog with a 300 gr. .430 slug, but a friend used one to kill a Russian boar on one of those canned hunts. The bullet entered in front of the left shoulder and exited the right ham. Tore the h*ll out of the organs on the way threw.
The bullet was a cast, RCBS 82079, over a fistful of H110, and Winchester LPM primer in Winchester cases.
For an experiment (like to experiment) we placed 3/4" pine boards 1" apart and shot a 240 gr. at it, 9 boards. Then we did the same thing with the 300 gr., passed threw board 18 and into the dirt bank.
This was done from a Ruger SBH.

Ray

 

[Water-Man]

I've taken many hogs with a .44 mag using 210gr. Silvertips so a 300gr. should work just fine.

 

[Farrier Matt]

Back home we hunt em with a dog and a knife, so I would think a 300 grain 44 mag would be more than adequate. My biggest to date was killed with a 44 mag winchester rifle shooting 300 grain XTPs.He went a little more than 300 pounds. My catahoulas and cur dogs have caught hogs up between 200 and 250 pounds. These were all Piney Wood Rooters in south FL.

 

[NITRO]

Cast .432" bullets: 280, 300, 320.

Will the 300 and 320 gr cast bullets stabelize in the Marlin 1894 lever action rifle with its 1 in 38 twist rate?

I've been shooting Marshall's 280 gr .432" WFNGC with no problems except that I have to shave the nose a tad for them to feed in the Marlin. The meplat is a little too wide but they do shoot just fine in an H&R Handi-Rifle.

Just curoius. Since the 280's shoot great, I don't see any advantage to a heavier bullet, but do have an open mind.

 

[Georgvus]

44Mag 300gr JSP on Hogs

Taking one step back I have used a cast 300gr Lee flat nose gas check in a 44Mag 629 8 3/8" S&W, Marlin lever and a combination gun (12g /44Mag). The projectile was cast to the equivalent of lyman No2 Alloy. I was not concerned with projectile expansion. The large flat nose allowed much "claret" to leak out of the hogs. Penetration was not a problem. The game was anchored with a body hit at practical off hand shots. Major bone damage was substantial. Most of the shots were walk up-running game.

One would assume JSP would at least equal cast.

 

[MikeG]

300s are a "maybe," according to reports on this forum that I have read. Some folks get them to work and some don't (that's a general statement across brand lines and nose styles). 320s would really surprise me if they work in the .44 mag, as that seems to be the dividing line with the faster .444.

My experience.....

 

[gunpa]

300s are a "maybe," according to reports on this forum that I have read. Some folks get them to work and some don't (that's a general statement across brand lines and nose styles). 320s would really surprise me if they work in the .44 mag, as that seems to be the dividing line with the faster .444.

My experience.....

Are you talking about the round feeding in a Marlin or bullet effectiveness ? I've seen how 300 LBT's penetrate! I've seen how well they penetrate out of my SBH at about 1350fps and it trully impressive!

 

[MikeG]

Stabilizing in the slow-twist Marlin barrels was the theme of my post. Effective at the receiving end.... no doubt about that.

 

[NITRO]

Answering my own question.

Will the 300 and 320 gr cast bullets stabelize in the Marlin 1894 lever action rifle with its 1 in 38 twist rate?

I've been shooting Marshall's 280 gr .432" WFNGC with no problems except that I have to shave the nose a tad for them to feed in the Marlin. The meplat is a little too wide but they do shoot just fine in an H&R Handi-Rifle.

Just curoius. Since the 280's shoot great, I don't see any advantage to a heavier bullet, but do have an open mind.

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If one goes to the top of this page, clicks on "Beartooth Bullets", then on "bullet selection", then on ".44 bullets", the answer is available in Marshall Stanton's own words:

"This 300 gr. bullet functions in all revolvers and lever action rifles, delivers outstanding accuracy due to long bearing surfaces and Hammer-of-Thor terminal performance."

Based upon that statement, I am going to order a box or two, not to proove or disproove anything, but to load 'um up and go after those giant Russian boar hogs in the Louisiana and Mississippi swamps.

My only question is; what's the max load of H110 or W296 with RP brass and WLP primers in the SS Marlin 1894S? Same question for 2400.

Thanks,

 

[TMan]

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My only question is; what's the max load of H110 or W296 with RP brass and WLP primers in the SS Marlin 1894S?

Depends on the bullet and seating depth, which will affect function in some cases. Probably somewhere between 17.5-20gr. 2400 would top out at 15-17gr.

One thing I find is that all 300gr bullets are not the same, and you don't want to take a max load and just swap bullets on the fly. My 77/44 has a definate length limit of 1.62" and is pretty topped out at 18.5gr of W296, with a Sierra 300gr bullet, where my SBH will handle 21gr loaded to 1.75". Speer 300gr bullets tend to produce higher pressure in my .44's than Sierra's.

The 1.75's will not work in the 77/44.