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I've loaded 4.7 gr. and 4.2 gr. of Clays with the 250 gr. Lee bullet. Both loads have worked out fine. I've settled on the 4.2 gr. load. I use it in both the rifle and the pistols.
 

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I use 4.8grns of clays with the 250grn bullet *-brass WLP and it chronys 715fps out of my 5.5" RV's and 850fps out of my 20" uberti 73 winchester clone. It is quite accurate.
 

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The Hodgdon Cowboy Action Data free maunal 3rd Edition lists a Clays load of 4.2 min. and 5.1 maximum with a 250 grain RNFP in the 45 Long Colt. Velocities listed were 713 and 817, respectively.
 
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