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Do you have ideas for good starting loads and/or some of your favorite loads for 45 Long Colt 265g Keith PB Hard Cast Bullets

at less than 14,000 psi . It has an equivalent to 7.5 or 8 inch barrel

The gun is a Leinald DD Double Barrel Derringer. (total length of barrel and chamber, including a 3in camber, is 10.5 inches)
 

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Most manuals will have loads for 255-260 gr bullets. If you stop a bit short of the printed maximum, you can use those loads with confidence.

BTW, the convention with most guns is that the barrel is measured from muzzle to breechface. Yours would be 10 ½".
 

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Please check in Loadswap -- using "45 LC" there are a couple of loads for the 265 bullet. Here's one:
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=277 bgColor=black border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=421 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Cartridge:</TD><TD bgColor=white>45 LC</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Weight:</TD><TD bgColor=white>265 grains</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Date:</TD><TD bgColor=white>2002-08-22</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Username:</TD><TD bgColor=white>m141a</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Type:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Cast</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Manufacturer:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Beartooth</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Nose Profile:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Keith</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Base:</TD><TD bgColor=white>fb</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Dia.</TD><TD bgColor=white>.452 grains</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>BHN:</TD><TD bgColor=white>x</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Powder:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Hodgdon Universal clays</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Charge Weight:</TD><TD bgColor=white>8.0 grains</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Primer:</TD><TD bgColor=white>CCI lg. Pistol Magnum</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Brass:</TD><TD bgColor=white>R-P</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Trim Length:</TD><TD bgColor=white>x"</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>C.O.L.:</TD><TD bgColor=white>1.6""</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Velocity:</TD><TD bgColor=white>about 800 fps</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Extreme Spread:</TD><TD bgColor=white>x fps</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Accuracy:</TD><TD bgColor=white>[email protected]</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Temperature:</TD><TD bgColor=white>68 degrees F</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Pressure:</TD><TD bgColor=white>normal [indoors]</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=white colSpan=2>Comments:</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=white colSpan=2>
Excellent accurate load for the Smith mountain gun
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Do you have ideas for good starting loads and/or some of your favorite loads for 45 Long Colt 265g Keith PB Hard Cast Bullets

at less than 14,000 psi . It has an equivalent to 7.5 or 8 inch barrel

The gun is a Leinald DD Double Barrel Derringer. (total length of barrel and chamber, including a 3in camber, is 10.5 inches)
Someone's "favorite" load really isn't going to do you much good in a 410/45LC deringer, just pick any load and go with it. Any accuracy you'll ever hope to have will be negated by the bullet bouncing it's way down the 2" of chamber length past the 45 LC brass before hitting the rifling. You'd be better off using a multi-ball load in a 410 shotshell.
 

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Most manuals will have loads for 255-260 gr bullets. If you stop a bit short of the printed maximum, you can use those loads with confidence.

BTW, the convention with most guns is that the barrel is measured from muzzle to breechface. Yours would be 10 ½".
Well is that the case for revolvers??????????????????
 

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Please check in Loadswap -- using "45 LC" there are a couple of loads for the 265 bullet. Here's one:
<FORM><INPUT onclick=javascript:window.print(); type=button value="Click Here To Print"></FORM>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=277 bgColor=black border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=421 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Cartridge:</TD><TD bgColor=white>45 LC</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Weight:</TD><TD bgColor=white>265 grains</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Date:</TD><TD bgColor=white>2002-08-22</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Username:</TD><TD bgColor=white>m141a</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Type:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Cast</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Manufacturer:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Beartooth</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Nose Profile:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Keith</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Base:</TD><TD bgColor=white>fb</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Bullet Dia.</TD><TD bgColor=white>.452 grains</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>BHN:</TD><TD bgColor=white>x</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Powder:</TD><TD bgColor=white>Hodgdon Universal clays</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Charge Weight:</TD><TD bgColor=white>8.0 grains</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Primer:</TD><TD bgColor=white>CCI lg. Pistol Magnum</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Brass:</TD><TD bgColor=white>R-P</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Trim Length:</TD><TD bgColor=white>x"</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>C.O.L.:</TD><TD bgColor=white>1.6""</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Velocity:</TD><TD bgColor=white>about 800 fps</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Extreme Spread:</TD><TD bgColor=white>x fps</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Accuracy:</TD><TD bgColor=white>[email protected]</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Temperature:</TD><TD bgColor=white>68 degrees F</TD></TR><TR><TD width=133 bgColor=white>Pressure:</TD><TD bgColor=white>normal [indoors]</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=white colSpan=2>Comments:</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=white colSpan=2>
Excellent accurate load for the Smith mountain gun
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Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry I did not thank you sooner - had to many posts on the subject!!
 

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Favorite loads are different than Starting loads

Someone's "favorite" load really isn't going to do you much good in a 410/45LC deringer, just pick any load and go with it. Any accuracy you'll ever hope to have will be negated by the bullet bouncing it's way down the 2" of chamber length past the 45 LC brass before hitting the rifling. You'd be better off using a multi-ball load in a 410 shotshell.
What I was asking for is STARTING LOADS
 

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Kev, no, it is different for revolvers. (And that's why I said "most" guns.) That's because the barrel of a revolver is completely separate from the firing chamber. Revolver barrel measurement is from the muzzle to the front of the cylinder.
 

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Kev, no, it is different for revolvers. (And that's why I said "most" guns.) That's because the barrel of a revolver is completely separate from the firing chamber. Revolver barrel measurement is from the muzzle to the front of the cylinder.
Respectfully I was not talking about most guns, That is exactly why I listed the barrel length as I did not want (wheel) handgun people to think I had a 10 1/2 barrel in a revolver! Which some did anyway. It was more like an 8 inch and not up to Contender velocities. It does not have a flash gap but does have a 1.5 plus in freebore - rougly the same, I assumed
 
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