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What will it take for Marlin to chamber a levergun in the "guidegun" configuration for this new cartidge? The 500sw would render the 480ruger and 454casull impotent. I would love to have a true .50cal in a lever action rifle without having to pay a fortune for a custombuilt. Anyone think this 'dog will hunt'?
 

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Won't fit the 1894 action but should work with the 336. Next question would be whats the chamber pressure?
 

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I doubt that Marlin will chamber the .500 S&W. Marlin has not come out with a 454 Casull. Winchester has the 480 Ruger in the Winchester 94 but not the 454 Casull. So far LSI/Rossi has both the 480 Ruger and the 454 Casull chambered in the 92. There is not a whole lot of room in the 92 for the 500 S&W. But who knows? Marlin could try and put it in the rifle caliber frame.

I'm still waiting for Rossi to chamber the 92 in 41 Magnum. NO, I do not want a Marlin.
 

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500 S&W In lever?

I don't see it happening- They have to see how many of these Smiths fall a part. If they don't sell enough you will not see it done either. With All the big Manufactors running from the thought of producing a 454 lever you probably never see outside a custom job.:rolleyes:
 

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Yanqui, I'll second that 92 in 41. I do however enjoy my Marlin in 41.
 

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Yanqui said:
I'm still waiting for Rossi to chamber the 92 in 41 Magnum. NO, I do not want a Marlin.
Yanqui - tell me why you prefer the Rossi. I am still deciding on what I want, I only know that it will be .45 LC, as far as models are concerned, I really only like the Marlin Limited 4, and the Puma M92. But I don't know a thing about the Puma, and they do not have enough info on it on-line at Legacy Sports to tell me anything. I am looking first for asthetics, secnond for price/value.
 

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There is nothing wrong with Marlin. It is just I prefer the John Browning design. I like the Winchester 1892 and 1894 SRC's.
The Marlins look like the Henry, Winchester 1866 and Winchester 1873. I know a lot of people like the way they look but I really do not. It is all a matter of taste.

I like the Trapper length of a 16" barrel with the saddle ring style of furniture. A curved butt plate and long forearm. I also like the big bow levers like the John Wayne lever and the Rifleman's lever. It is the Wrangler look.

Check out these two sites for some good information.
http://208.251.255.244/comments/rossi_levergun.htm

http://208.251.255.244/comments/rossi_field_stripping.htm
 

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500 S&W Under 50,000 Pressure

RS, here's why you won't see it in a short action lever gun - the rim diameter is .556", the body diameter is .528", the maximum case length is 1.625", and the overall cartridge length is 2.10". The actual bullet diameter is .500".

It's just way oversized to fit anything but 30-30 length actions I think. I'm keepin' my fingers crossed we'll see a lever action 500S&W rifle turn up before the Holidays.

GOOD LUCK!


Below: .44 Mag - 500S&W - 45LC




rock steady said:
What will it take for Marlin to chamber a levergun in the "guidegun" configuration for this new cartidge? The 500sw would render the 480ruger and 454casull impotent. I would love to have a true .50cal in a lever action rifle without having to pay a fortune for a custombuilt. Anyone think this 'dog will hunt'?
 

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500 S&W Lever Action @ Shot Show!

Gowge said:
RS, here's why you won't see it in a short action lever gun - the rim diameter is .556", the body diameter is .528", the maximum case length is 1.625", and the overall cartridge length is 2.10". The actual bullet diameter is .500".

Below: .44 Mag - 500S&W - 45LC

Marlin has just released a new 1895RL in .475 Linbaugh/ .480 Ruger...



AND.... the folks @ Wild West Guns in Alaska went'n done it in 500S&W!

http://www.wildwestguns.com/EStore/MasterGuideOrder/WWG04/wwg04.html

 

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Gowge,

Great photos. How do get that large of a file posted? Every time I try to post a color photo I am denied because the "file is too large". After reducing the resolution to 150 it will take. Limited to 1024k.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Photo Resolution?

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Gowge,

Great photos. How do get that large of a file posted? Every time I try to post a color photo I am denied because the "file is too large". After reducing the resolution to 150 it will take. Limited to 1024k.

Thanks in advance.

Try setting your resolution to 75-100dpi @ 640x480 and see what it will do... Should be plenty good enough to share on the WWW... Compress in JPG format for the smallest file size (my experience)...

For example, the picture below is 72pixels/inch @ 1000x381 & 113k file size...

GOOD LUCK!

 

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Gowge,

Will do. Your photos are so sharp and clear I thought that there was alternative method of posting higher resolutions. Thanks.
 

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rock steady, Combat Diver,
Won't fit the 1894 action but should work with the 336. Next question would be what's the chamber pressure?
S&W says top pressure for the .500 S&W is 60,000 psi with typical loads in the 50,000 - 56,000 psi range.
However the 500 (.510) Linebaugh is typically 35,000 psi. I'll be converting to the 500 Linebaugh (hot enough for me ... a personal decision). Additionally, my levergun smith thinks he can build a 2nd barrel assembly(!!!) to handle the 500 Linebaugh to work with my present 1895DRC TakeDown ...
See ... http://photos.yahoo.com/richpix2001
Open the 1895DRC folder.

Here's the calculations that helped me make this decision:
The 435gr, LBT/LFN, .510 at 1300fps is a TKO of 41 ... for a 500 Linebaugh load.
The 430gr, LBT/LFN, .458 at 1925fps is a TKO of 54 ... for a 45-70 (Magnum) Levergun load.
I estimate this 435gr, LBT/LFN, 500 Linebaugh, fired in a new 19.5" Badger barrel, will also have a TKO of 54.
That is:
The 435gr, LBT/LFN, .510 at 1720fps is a TKO of 54.
This 1720fps calculation comes from the following estimate:
19.5" - 5.5" = 14" additional barrel length.
Assuming 30fps/inch, this implies ... (14) x (30) = 420fps additional velocity, i.e., 1300 + 420 = 1720fps.
This gives me a 500 Linebaugh Revolver/Levergun combo using the same ammo.

Bill
 

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NITRO said:
Gowge,

Great photos. How do get that large of a file posted? Every time I try to post a color photo I am denied because the "file is too large". After reducing the resolution to 150 it will take. Limited to 1024k.

Thanks in advance.
Most every ISP provides a few Mb of web space "free" with your subscription. See your ISPs home page for directions on uploading the files. After you have your pictures on the web, display them here using the {img}url{/img} board code (replace the curly brackets { } with square brackets[ ]). Then you can post any size image you like. 'Course if you make them too big, the dial up guys may not hang around long enough to see them. :p
 
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