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wanting a little bit more than my cz 6.5x55 mannlicher can provide. looking to shoot 140 sierra's and 120&140 gr. barnes xlc's. what's the story on this round? good, bad? should i look at a factory round? problems i was having with my 338-06 did turn out to be a bad front scope ring and base on rifle. best group so far has been .254". thanks for the help!
 

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The 6.5 '06 is a wonderful round, and easy to make from 25-06, 270 or 30-06 cases. Also, Norma has made the 6.5-284 a factory round, if you want a short action. Ballistics are almost identical, except the 6.5-06 is better with heavy bullets.

In either case, stick with the fast 1 in 8 twist rate or quicker, so you can stabilize some of the very long bullets available in 6.5. You will wind up with the best attributes of both the 25-06 and the 270 Win...not bad company, and add the penetration of 220 gr 30-06 rounds (the 160 gr 6.5 and the 220 gr .308 have the same SD).
 

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The 6.5-06 is an awsome cartridge! You have a better selection of bullets than either .257 or 270, all the European makers make bullets along with US. manf. Easy to make from 25-06 or if you want a tighter neck, make them from 30-06. If you choose to go further with this, the outcome will make you smile.
P.S. I have one for sale now and am building another.
 

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what kind of rifle and how much? currently have a 1500 howa in 22-250 that i was thinking of rebarreling to 260 rem. or something else to get me to around 2900 fps with a 140 gr bullet. most load books say only 2700 fps with the 260 at that bullet weight. only 100 fps faster than my cz 550 mannlicher in 6.5x55 with 20.5" bbl. really would prefer a standard length action and go with the 6.5-06 as dies and brass is somewhat more affordable not to mention the added benefit of being able to shoot the heavier bullets in the 6.5 line. anybody with experience with the 260 rem. please let me know how far i can go with a 140 gr. bullet out of a 26" bbl. thanks, victor e.
 

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Nosler #5 edition manual lists 3 loads for their 140 Partition in the 2820 to 2830 fps range in a 24 inch bblfor the 260. Two more inches of bbl will get you to 2870 to 2880 range.

However, most shooters don't realize how heavy a 140 gr bullet in 6.5 really is: it has the same sectional density as a 162 gr 7MM or a 190 gr .308 bullet.

I like the Nosler 125 gr partition in the 260 much better. They list one load that clocks 3034 fps from a 24 inch bbl for the 125 PAR, and 4 more that will do the same thing from a 26 inch bbl. In a partition bullet with a sectional density of .256 you are matching the .270 Win with a 140 gr bullet in terms of velocity times sectional density, and beating the 270 in 130 grains. Not bad company...
 

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My personal favorite. I own two right now. Matching Ruger 77's . One with a stainless 26" barrel and one with a 25" blued barrel. I have loaded up to 2950 fps without pressure problems (140 gr boattail ) but my best accuracy comes in around a 100 fps slower. Once you start shooting this you'll fall in love. I'm into a new project now and hope to push a 160 gr. 6.5 over 3000 fps. 6.5x300 WSM
 

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still wanting to do the 6.5-06 thing but no rifle right now to cut up. only gun i was not using was a 22-250 howa i rebarreled to 7mm-08. if you get tired of one of the rugers let me know. i like the action but can honestly say i never owned one that shot worth a **** in factory form. the 6.5-300wsm sounds like a good bet but i don't think it would be worth your while in the cost of custom dies, case forming and such when there is the 6.5 rem mag still around out there unless you are like me and just a plain old glutton for punishment. what other 6.5mm bullets are out there besides the sierra's and hornady round noses? most cordially, victor e.
 

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I'm with Bigbore...its tough to start squeezing the WSM case down to .264 with the 270 WSM sitting on the shelf. Mine stunned me when I shot 5 FACTORY 270 WSM 150 grainers over my chronograph and got 3156 fps, plus or minus 12 fps. You can get 3050 fps with 160 gr Nosler partitions and R25 or MagPro. Varmints anyone?...100 gr PSPs at 3600 fps are a breeze and TACK drivers.

Up for a 26 inch (custom) barrel?...add 75 fps to all of the above. What can't you whack with a 160 Partition at 3125 fps and 3475 FPE?

Wanna sit and spot antelope way out yonder?...try a 270 WSM in a 28 inch bbl and launch 130 gr Balistic Tips at 3450 fps (3300 from 24 inch). Compare the 24 and 28 inch 270 WSM velocities to the 7MM Rem Mag or 7MM RUM with 140 gr bullets, respectively.


GEEZ...we're covering the best features of everthing from the 25-06 to the 7MM Rem Mag here with bullet weights from 90 to 180 grains in a short action rifle...what's not to like with what we've GOT? :D
 

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I agree with you on the Rugers. Actions available at a price I couldn't resist. Won't be parting with either soon. Stainless shoots -.40 MOA at 100 and blued barrel shoot just over .60. Both keepers....As for the 6.5x300 WSM it's just something I want to try. Norma also makes 158 grain bullets in .264. Dies are 119.00 for a two die set, 79.00 for an intermidiate sizer and 35.00 for a neck sizer. Using a Lilja three groove SS barrel I'm hoping to surpass the 270 WSM in velocity and the increased BC of the 160 gr 6.5 should be a real plus. The biggest part is "I just wanna try it". I've played around with guns for 30 years. Finally had a complete shop put up behind my home last year.( Mans gotta have his toys) As for you 6.5x06, a good Mauser action is relativly inexpensive and great to use for the 06 length calibers. Get your self a good 6.5 built and you'll be sold on it.
 
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