As with most things these days, it's only a web browser, a mouse click, and a UPS truck (and a week wait) awayThe finding of factory ammo is a bit of a challenge in most area's!
It's not real common but I see some of both the 120gr AccuTip and the 140gr Core-Lokt in at least one store here. Also, Federal makes Fusions for it, too. However, at MidwayUSA, for example, there's over a dozen choices (not all are hunting bullets, though): http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Bro...3&categoryId=9331&categoryString=653***690***I think it is still fairly new, so ammo isn't really common. Heck, the 260 Rem isn't really common either for the most part. I think Rem only loads one load for their own offspring. Scotty
Well... the .243 was introduced 50+ years ago and the 7mm-08 was 30 years ago (has it been that long! Even I remember it ) and the .260 was only 10 years ago. I remember people saying "what do you need a 7mm-08 for when you have the .308?" back then, too... it's very popular now, though. From reading about it, it seems the .243 was pretty popular from the get-go, though.Yeah, I can't think of a single 6.5/264 offering where finding ammo is all that easy and they should be just as popular as the 24's, 25's and 27's, which are pretty easy to get bullets for. When you consider how much more successful the 243 Win and 7mm-08 have been than the 260 Remington, when the difference between each respective cartridge is just .020", it is really difficult to understand. The smallest 308 off spring is enormously popular and the cartridge just one step down is doing quite well, but the 260 is like the red-headed step-child...no love!
How much is the .260 hurt in an AR-10? It seems that at least with 120gr bullets it should easily fit within the OAL specs of the AR-10. I haven't read anything about it (just haven't looked for any info on it, really).Hopefully the 6.5 Creedmoor, with it's ability to fit easily in an AR-10 without encroaching on powder capacity, might benefit from the growing popularity of black gun hunting rifles.
The 338 Federal is definitely a better "all around hunting round" than the Creedmoor, but it does so with greater recoil than is necessary for small to medium game, such as deer. Also, for any kind of competition shooting, the smaller 6.5 has many advantages over the 338 and 264WM. With today's powders, over-bore offerings like the old 264 are not as hard on barrels, but they still require a substantial increase in powder and barrel length, and create significant muzzle blast and flash, to produce modest increases in velocity.I feel that for the ar platform the 338 Federal is a better all around hunting round and if you want the perfect 6.5 then the 264WM is tops. The range of bullet weights in 6.5 is great and stores like Cabellas and Sportsmans wharehouse carry a varity. None of the other 6.5's interest me because the 264 does it all.
Don't lose hope yet. It seems that ArmaLite has just started producing their AR-10 in .260 Remington.I'm mad at the 6.5 Creedmore, because I love the 260 REM. What little momentum the 260 was having a few years ago to crawl out of the sales doldrums has been hurt by the new Creedmore. I was hoping to get another 260 with a longer barrel, but the few standard rifles that had been offered in 260 are getting less and less. At east one of them (Ruger) was replaced by the Creedmore.
Well, I sit corrected! I must have been looking at the standard Hawkeye when I noticed that the 260 was replaced by the Creedmore.The .260 doesn't need a longer barrel Jake. It shines with the short barrels just fine, as does all of the .308 family. The Ruger Compact is a perfect platform for the .260 and is still readily available. http://www.ruger.com/products/m77HawkeyeLaminateCompact/index.html
The 338 Federal is definitely a better "all around hunting round" than the Creedmoor, but it does so with greater recoil than is necessary for small to medium game, such as deer. Also, for any kind of competition shooting, the smaller 6.5 has many advantages over the 338 and 264WM. With today's powders, over-bore offerings like the old 264 are not as hard on barrels, but they still require a substantial increase in powder and barrel length, and create significant muzzle blast and flash, to produce modest increases in velocity.
The 6.5 Creedmoor fits in a short-action or AR-type rifle, giving very good accuracy and ample power for most hunting situations. If more gun is needed, I personally think a larger caliber is in order, not just more speed from the same bullets.
Small and fast bullets are the rule for varmints, while slow and heavy bullets are used for dangerous game. Somewhere in-between is where medium sized, thin-skinned, big-game cartridges are used, and there is a rather large range available for this purpose. This is where the high-velocity vs. large bore argument was founded. Hunters must decide for themselves, within this window of cartridges, what works best for how and where they hunt. Maybe a 224 TDH will work great for your needs, or perhaps a 45/70 shooting a 400gr slug at 1500fps will get the job done?
I think the Creedmoor pushes 6.5mm bullets at about the right speed, but then again the 6.5x55 had that figured out over a century ago, so it doesn't take a genius to arrive at that conclusion! I'm glad we have more than one 26 caliber cartridge to choose from...I just wish one of them would be successful enough that we could count on it being readily available for the future.
Given that the 264WM takes 20 grains more powder, a long action and 4 more inches of barrel to generate it's modest increase in velocity, I agree with you completely that you could reduce your charge and get Creedmoor performance. However, depending on the rate of twist in your barrel, it is entirely possible that a match rifle chambered for the Creedmoor round could stabilize a heavier bullet and its shorter powder column might result in better accuracy. Hundreds of target shooters can't be wrong? It's more a question of ballistic efficiency than bashing the old 264WM.I can't see any advantages over the 264WM because I can back off on powder and duplicate the creadmoor balistics. There is no bullet out there that the creedmoor shoots that I can't load in the 264.
So the creedmoor would be a waste of money to me. With my 30-06, 264WM and soon to be 338 Federal I will have all the bases covered