Most 7.69X39 imported ammo just isn't pinpoint accurate due to components and Q/C. The round itself can be as good as any others as far as accuracy.
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As stated the 7.62x39 can be accurate.
Point here is what are the others that say the round isnt acurate considering good shooter.
It was just stated here 2 to 3 inch groups at 100 open sights.
Ok ill have to side with that being not so bad per open sights ect.
But then again if i had a rifle in any given cal that wouldnt put 5 shots at a 100 yards inside at least a dime if a .223 or say a 30-06 do it within a qaurter at same distance both using a good scope then that rifles got a home in my gun safe for praire doggin or say long range deer.
But then again 2 to 3 open sights would do any deer hunting at its reasonable range per the calibers capabilites when proper shot placement is done.
So what is considered a good group is in the eye of the poster and just might be more than enough in another reader and possibly gone down the road pc of crap in anothers eye.
Myself if 150 yards was my predicted range and open sights gave me 2 to 3 inches at 100 yards = Its a rifle up to the task.
I personaly would like 2 inch or less but truth being itll get the job done.
Boy i muddied the water with this posting didnt i ?
Head Shot
As stated the 7.62x39 can be accurate.
Point here is what are the others that say the round isnt acurate considering good shooter.
It was just stated here 2 to 3 inch groups at 100 open sights.
Ok ill have to side with that being not so bad per open sights ect.
But then again if i had a rifle in any given cal that wouldnt put 5 shots at a 100 yards inside at least a dime if a .223 or say a 30-06 do it within a qaurter at same distance both using a good scope then that rifles got a home in my gun safe for praire doggin or say long range deer.
But then again 2 to 3 open sights would do any deer hunting at its reasonable range per the calibers capabilites when proper shot placement is done.
So what is considered a good group is in the eye of the poster and just might be more than enough in another reader and possibly gone down the road pc of crap in anothers eye.
Myself if 150 yards was my predicted range and open sights gave me 2 to 3 inches at 100 yards = Its a rifle up to the task.
I personaly would like 2 inch or less but truth being itll get the job done.
Boy i muddied the water with this posting didnt i ?
Head Shot
At some of the ranges I shoot at - most of the shooters would be tickled to death with 1.5" groups at 50 yards. Some at 25. With any cartridge and gun!
I don't know why - but the shorter the barrel on a semi-auto - it seems the groups are exponentially worse. No matter what chambering.
Do think that has something to do with new shooters enamored with mall-ninja guns and the "look" but not really knowing much about actual shooting.
So.... can 7.62x39 be accurate? I'm sure it can. But most people shooting the stuff don't have a prayer of finding out.
I don't know why - but the shorter the barrel on a semi-auto - it seems the groups are exponentially worse. No matter what chambering.
Do think that has something to do with new shooters enamored with mall-ninja guns and the "look" but not really knowing much about actual shooting.
So.... can 7.62x39 be accurate? I'm sure it can. But most people shooting the stuff don't have a prayer of finding out.
You all posted some great input about this! I am new to this site and forum and like it already.. seem like a lot of cool people here
A few year back, I owned a Ruger Model 77 MKII in 7.62 X 39 m/m which was very accurate. The only issue I had with the rifle was it's chamber had a long throat, and if you used .308" bullets, you had to neck size your cases, or you would get misfires. The .310" bullet worked fine though. The bore dia. was .3095" inorder to use both .308" & .310" bullets.
The bore dia. was .3095" inorder to use both .308" & .310" bullets.Trying to see an aspirin at 83 yards would give me a headache?
It's interesting that the more things change, the more they are the same.
It was mentioned that the 7.62x39 was the grandfather of the PPC. It's son was the 5.6x39 (220 Russian) which became the father of the PPC. Not too many years ago, some Benchrest shooters went from the PPC back to the original 220 Russian which proved to be just as accurate as the PPC when good brass was used. And, naturally, what followed was some shooters going to the .30 PPC which is nothing more than the 7.62x39 in a match-quality case.
So, is the 7.62x39 an accurate cartridge? In a good barrel, with good brass, and a good bullet, you bet it is.
Ray
It was mentioned that the 7.62x39 was the grandfather of the PPC. It's son was the 5.6x39 (220 Russian) which became the father of the PPC. Not too many years ago, some Benchrest shooters went from the PPC back to the original 220 Russian which proved to be just as accurate as the PPC when good brass was used. And, naturally, what followed was some shooters going to the .30 PPC which is nothing more than the 7.62x39 in a match-quality case.
So, is the 7.62x39 an accurate cartridge? In a good barrel, with good brass, and a good bullet, you bet it is.
Ray
Dimesize 5 shot groups with a 223. Maybe once a month. The present world record 5 shot group is I think .005" by Mike Stinnet in Texas. Mike shoots a 30PPC which is basically a 7.62x39 Ackley improved. Brass is 220 Russian fireformed to 30PPC. I have a 220 Russian,220Beggs version, being completed at this time. Gene Beggs found that changing the radius at the shoulder neck juncture fixed the 220 Russian's problem of the brass growing in length. Mine will be a Tin Can shooter and not a BR rifle.
My rifle was originally a 7.62X39 MiniMauser barreled receiver. I made it a 270X39AI. Basically a 270PPC. It was a wonderful kid's rifle with very little recoil. I decided to rebuild it completely. A foolish idea probably. It should be back from the stocker in about 2 weeks.
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Kinda ugly right now, but I think you will like it later.
My rifle was originally a 7.62X39 MiniMauser barreled receiver. I made it a 270X39AI. Basically a 270PPC. It was a wonderful kid's rifle with very little recoil. I decided to rebuild it completely. A foolish idea probably. It should be back from the stocker in about 2 weeks.
Kinda ugly right now, but I think you will like it later.
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