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This post was originally placed under the Handloading Proceedures And Practices Forum by Clark.
There is some good info here that well might get overlooked or buried in that thread, so I took the liberty of copying it here for easy reference at a later time!
Many thanks Clark!
8x57mm. 200 gr Yugo bullets, CCI 200, IMR4895, Collet neck, no crimp, RP brass, and 3.160"
I looked at different load books for IMR4895 powder loads for the 8x57mm JS Mauser cartridge.
1) "Sierra" [newer than 1971]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps
2) "Sierra 50 th Anniversary" 1995: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps
3) "Hornady Handbook" 1973: 150 gr 52.5 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 50.1 gr 2700 fps
4) "Hornady 5 th" 2000[ H4895]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 170 gr 47.9 gr 2600 fps
5) "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders volume 2" 1966 PO Ackley: 150 gr 54 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2700 fps
6) "Speer 7" 1966: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2452 fps
7) "Speer 8" 1970: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps
8) "Speer 9" 1974: 150 gr 48 gr 2849 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
9) "Speer 11" 1987: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
10) "Speer 12" 1994: 150 gr 48gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
11) "Speer 13" 1998: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
12) "Lyman 40th" 1955: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps
13) "Lyman 41 st" 1957: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps
14) "Lyman 43 rd" 1964: 150 gr 54 gr 2920 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2695 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2410 fps
15) "Lyman 45th" 1970: 150 gr 51 gr* 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49 gr* 2672 fps compressed 225 gr 46 gr* 2341 fps compressed
16) "Lyman 47th" 1992: 150 gr 51+ gr 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49+gr 2672 fps compressed
17) "Handloading" William Davis and the NRA 1981 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k
cup 170 gr 46 gr 2640 <50k cup
18) IMR catalog 1990 [current]: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
19) "Modern Reloading" Richard Lee 1996: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
20) "Hodgdon No. 27" 1998: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
21) "My Turkish Mauser notebook" 2001: 200 gr 44 gr no sign of pressure, OAL=3.16", neck sized RP brass 200 gr 46 gr top hat primer [CCI 200] 200 gr 47 gr
1.5" at 100 yards 3 shot group [best] 200 gr 49 gr sticky bolt 200 gr 50gr bulge in case gets closer to web. I should not repeat this load. 200 gr 51 gr very sticky
bolt, primer pocket hole diameter increase is measurable. I should not repeat this load. "Most of this data is related to maximum loads and none are starting points.
These are not suggestions for others, only notes relating to my own handload results for this cartridge." It is your gun and your body. You have to take your own
risks. Clark
OAL: 44 gr 2.2"
45 gr 2.25" 46 gr 2.25" and top hat primer 47 gr 1.5" 48 gr 3.3" 49 gr >
4" and sticky bolt 50 gr >4" and case base bulge 51 gr 3" 52 gr 2.25"
Very sticky bolt
I reloaded: 46.25 gr >1.9" 46.50 gr 4" 46.75 gr 3.4" 47.00 gr 3" 47.25
gr 5" 47.50 gr 2.2" 47.75 gr 2.6" 48.00 gr 4.3"
There is some good info here that well might get overlooked or buried in that thread, so I took the liberty of copying it here for easy reference at a later time!
Many thanks Clark!
8x57mm. 200 gr Yugo bullets, CCI 200, IMR4895, Collet neck, no crimp, RP brass, and 3.160"
I looked at different load books for IMR4895 powder loads for the 8x57mm JS Mauser cartridge.
1) "Sierra" [newer than 1971]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps
2) "Sierra 50 th Anniversary" 1995: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps
3) "Hornady Handbook" 1973: 150 gr 52.5 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 50.1 gr 2700 fps
4) "Hornady 5 th" 2000[ H4895]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 170 gr 47.9 gr 2600 fps
5) "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders volume 2" 1966 PO Ackley: 150 gr 54 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2700 fps
6) "Speer 7" 1966: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2452 fps
7) "Speer 8" 1970: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps
8) "Speer 9" 1974: 150 gr 48 gr 2849 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
9) "Speer 11" 1987: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
10) "Speer 12" 1994: 150 gr 48gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
11) "Speer 13" 1998: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps
12) "Lyman 40th" 1955: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps
13) "Lyman 41 st" 1957: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps
14) "Lyman 43 rd" 1964: 150 gr 54 gr 2920 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2695 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2410 fps
15) "Lyman 45th" 1970: 150 gr 51 gr* 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49 gr* 2672 fps compressed 225 gr 46 gr* 2341 fps compressed
16) "Lyman 47th" 1992: 150 gr 51+ gr 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49+gr 2672 fps compressed
17) "Handloading" William Davis and the NRA 1981 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k
cup 170 gr 46 gr 2640 <50k cup
18) IMR catalog 1990 [current]: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
19) "Modern Reloading" Richard Lee 1996: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
20) "Hodgdon No. 27" 1998: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup
21) "My Turkish Mauser notebook" 2001: 200 gr 44 gr no sign of pressure, OAL=3.16", neck sized RP brass 200 gr 46 gr top hat primer [CCI 200] 200 gr 47 gr
1.5" at 100 yards 3 shot group [best] 200 gr 49 gr sticky bolt 200 gr 50gr bulge in case gets closer to web. I should not repeat this load. 200 gr 51 gr very sticky
bolt, primer pocket hole diameter increase is measurable. I should not repeat this load. "Most of this data is related to maximum loads and none are starting points.
These are not suggestions for others, only notes relating to my own handload results for this cartridge." It is your gun and your body. You have to take your own
risks. Clark
OAL: 44 gr 2.2"
45 gr 2.25" 46 gr 2.25" and top hat primer 47 gr 1.5" 48 gr 3.3" 49 gr >
4" and sticky bolt 50 gr >4" and case base bulge 51 gr 3" 52 gr 2.25"
Very sticky bolt
I reloaded: 46.25 gr >1.9" 46.50 gr 4" 46.75 gr 3.4" 47.00 gr 3" 47.25
gr 5" 47.50 gr 2.2" 47.75 gr 2.6" 48.00 gr 4.3"