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I guess it's best to just describe my "arsenal", and hope that someone can offer some advice on basic gear to keep it up and running.

I don't want to get too immersed with gadgets and gear, so a tidy setup would be cool.

Here is my stuff:
Glock 19 (and planning on getting a glock 26) 9mm
Rugar LCP .380
S&W 686 (357 magnum)
Marlin Rifle - 1894 in 357magnum
A Remington 12g 870 is also in the plans

A year ago, I was entirely unarmed except for the kitchen knives! My philosophy now is to equip myself in such a way that:
1 - This new endeavor doesn't take up a ton of space and cause clutter
2 - The stuff will allow for self defense and basic hunting capacity
3 - All weapons allowing for ease of maintenance and the ability to take some neglect if needed
4 - cross compatibility if possible- Glocks of the same caliber, The revolver and rifle use the same bullets

OK... so enough of that. Given this kind of arsenal, what kind of basic gear... to include essential tools should I get?

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Sounds like you're off to a good start with sensible plans for the future to me. Only thing I would advise against would be the 'neglect' thing no matter how occasional. Cleaning the bores after shooting and keeping the metal dressed and minding the humidity where they're stored isn't all that much work and it pays big dividends. The only thing I might do different is swap the second Glock planned for a longer range hunting rifle. Anyways, welcome to our world!
 

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+1 a hunting-caliber rifle (.308 would be my first choice) and also on the maintenance.

My next big purchase would be a suitable storage system, with emphasis on security.

I'd be thinking about my ammo inventory too.
 

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Unless you're related to Bill Gates, think seriously about getting into reloading your own ammunition. The price for factory ammo continues to sky rocket so if you enjoy shooting, think reloading. Just my dos centavos, YMMV.
 

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Thanks for the tips...

Regarding a longer range hunting rifle:
Is there an assault style rifle that will serve that purpose?.. something like an AK, AR, SKS, or the newer (more accurate) Rugar M14?

Again, I'd like to cross purpose whenever possible. The AR is probably the most accurate of those rifles, but it is commonly held to be more picky about cleanliness.

And another question! What is it that makes a "tactical" rifle unsuitable for hunting?... can't I just put a longer barrel on a tactical mossberg 500 or remington 870?

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Sounds like you are just about set for the zombie apocalypse. Getting into reloading would be a great idea if you want to cut ammo costs in the long run but it does take a several hundred dollar investment up front for a quality press, scale and dies.

A good long range rifle would round out the arsenal quite well. If you are more into the semi-auto type rifles there are AR-10s and the FNAR in 308 that would serve well in this regard as well as the socom and socom II although their shorter barrels sacrifice some of the velocity the 308 is capable of.

I think the number one drawback to most military inspired rifles as it applies to hunting is the weight. most are heavier than you want to actively hunt with and some are just not accurate enough. but many will do the job admirably with the proper ammunition. As for the AR-15 the 223 caliber is generally not considered hard hitting enough to ethically take big game. Many states have laws requiring at least 25 caliber for big game. The light 223 round, while fast, accurate and flat-shooting for a battle rifle, suffers loss of energy at long ranges which does not effect it's ability to punch paper near as much as it does to take a deer.

As far as equipment to keep your arms up and running, Break free is a great lube, hopps #9 is a great solvent. Both are pretty inexpensive. A good cleaning kit with bore and chamber brushes for the calibers you own and some instruction on how to use it correctly would be about all you need.

as for rebarreling a shot gun it can be done depending on the model. Cabelas even has a set that comes with a tactical and a hunting barrel. I know the mosberg is easy to switch because I have one. something to note is for the mosberg you can't get a hunting barrel if you get the extra long magazine tube "tactical" model. you have to get the standard mag to swap the barrels.
 

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Welcome to the site. About 5 years ago I had the same thought about firearms. If and when you catch the bug look out. I just wanted to protect my self (WELL ) 5 years latter 28 rifles 5 shot guns and 12 hand guns reloading equipment and all fun. You can never ever have enough firearms . The firearm sickness is a good sickness as long as you respect them and enjoy shooting it can be a life time hobby.
 

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Money isn't a big issue, but I don't like have tons of gear and crap laying around. I like to save money as much as the next guy, of course, but mainly I want to prevent a scenario where I have an oversized inventory of stuff and then additional stuff to maintain that other stuff!

Reloading does sound interesting, though.

To tell you the truth, I have no particular interest in hunting or even shooting for the sake of shooting! Strange, eh? I'd rather feed a deer than shoot it, but if me, my neighbors, or family ever hunger for food, ... I'm a hunter.

I recognize the need to practice, but mostly I want to have a solid arsenal *before* some event happens in which I will need the stuff *now*! If the public suddenly gets the idea to acquire guns, this gear will be nearly impossible to buy cheaply. (oddly, the same could be said for silver and gold!)

With the recent "Obama-is-taking-our-guns" scare, things went wild and things got expensive fast. Can you imagine what would happen if citizens actually needed guns for real???

I'm willing to spend money on the correct, best suited equipment. That said, a well made-but-exotic and expensive firearm isn't interesting to me. In fact "being common" is something that I value in a firearm most of all.... along with reliability.

The ballistic characteristics of various calibers and "loads" is still a mystery to me. I'll need to read a bit about that. FNAR in 308, eh? I look into it.

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well you got it covered pretty good..theres one you don t have that i would never want to be without..a 22 bolt,, magazine fed,rifle. .
if i was in a push an had to pick one that i could carry enough ammo
to last a while.. a good good 22 [i chose a bolt an a accurate semi] will in the end,, cover all the basis from taking game to an self defence gun..
the semi for quick deadly use an if im not in a position to maintain the gun well ,,the bolt action can be very forgiving..my choice was my marlin 60 an cz 452special [both w scope but iron sights left on] ..the semi will hold up well if you use clean cci ammo ..
as to long range , my choice was the 30 06.. but this is a more specialised gun..for me good out to 450-500 yrds.. since im not gonna carry all the gadgets..
a little water availability an that gun stashed somewhere with adequate ammo ..is emergency go to gun..this while i carry my 22 most times ..slim
ps.. im on my first cup this morning ,,so may have to straiten out this
post later,if i read it an it don t make sense..oh yea ,,you need several good knives .good luck..remember[ kiss] that don t mean im wanting no sugar now..:)slim

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Oh yes... the 22LR.

This has been on my list. In fact, before I learned about the 1894, that was one of the things I wanted to acquire at this last gun show. For myself, I was considering the Rugar 1022.

The rounds are cheap, ultra common, and you can carry zillions of the rounds easily... very nice!.... not very powerful, but they can be very functional in a pinch.

Shucks... the theoretical arsenal is growing!

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You sound a bit like I did right after 9/11. First thing I did was go and get a combat 12 gauge. You have some great ideas on your arsenal. The Marlin 1894c is a great choice particularly in conjunction with the S&W 686. Definitely want to reload .357 mag. The 1894 is also very fast and holds a lot of rounds. It is what we call cowboy tactical on another site I belong to.

Couple of very important things: If you don't plan on shooting much you might as well sell the lot and just keep the shotgun for short range defense, seriously. Rifles and pistols take skill and that takes practice. Hunting takes different skills and the shooting only happens 1% of the time spent.

As to rifles - a .22 rifle is a great idea as a survival weapon. For an arsenal - a good high powered rifle in a common caliber (.308, 30-06, .270, I might add .243 too) is a great idea. They will take a deer at extended ranges with a good scope and double as a sniper rifle. For these purposes a bolt action will suit you fine and the money spent will go towards accuracy instead of bells and whistles.

For semi-auto rifles and ultra reliability I like piston gas systems like the new Ruger in the AR platform or a nice used AK-47 or my favorite the Czech VZ 58.

Happy hunting!
 

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Most survivalists look to a good .22 rifle as the first gun to own. You can have a companion pistol for it and use them, in combination, to survive in most situations; the rifle for small game up to deer and the pistol for self-defense, although they have no real stopping power.
 

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i agree broom.. but if that 22 rnd is placed right ,,it will drop a man right where he stands..im talkin right behind the ear for man or deer..i personally have put dn several car hit deer .. with my 22 rifle..they never knew what hittum.. now for chest shots you are right.. just may give a bg enough time to kill you.slim grin
 

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First off, forget the 'TACTICAL" BS. Tactical is just a tag to put on "stuff" to add to the price. You cant gimic your way to good shooting regardless if its called "tactical or sniper".

Forget the Commie/Zombie killing crap.

Get a good bolt gun and a good bolt 22 cal and learn to shoot them both.

Until one learns to shoot, learns the fundamentals, stay away from the so called "Assualt Rifles". The exception to that would be an AR, M1, or M1A that is legal to shoot in High Power Matches.

As others said, get into reloading, you learn to shoot by learning the fundamentals and putting rounds down range.
 

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I'm not going to move it somewhere else, because, as I already explained -

Zombie defense is not the purpose of the board.

This one is closed too.

You would basically get the exact same response in a PM, so just take this post as the equivalent.
 

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Mike - Since that was a whining post and a lot of nonsense, I deleted it about the time you were posting. In case members are puzzled by Mike's response, be advised the poster was complaining about a previous post being deleted due to nonsensical content.
 

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Thanks Ken, that was probably the better thing to do. I've reopened the thread now that it's back on track.
 

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Mike - Since that was a whining post and a lot of nonsense, I deleted it about the time you were posting. In case members are puzzled by Mike's response, be advised the poster was complaining about a previous post being deleted due to nonsensical content.
Actually I was complaining about it being closed. You couldn't even leave the part of what guns I own and what future guns I'd like to own? I mean isn't that fitting to the topic of arsenals?

I'm not trying to be an ***, I just want to understand what you guys find appropriate. It seems like the entire post I made was inappropriate in y'alls eyes yet, part of it actually was relevant.
 

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OK, let me spell it out for you Bob -

We aren't interested in zombie hunting, end-of-the-world or when-the-pookie-hits-the-fan topics. We aren't particularly interested in fantasy thoughts on dream rifles.

The board is dedicated to serious shooters, reloaders and hunters. Questions relating to these topics are spread among the many forums on this board and are given serious consideration by board members. Hold the gaming scenarios to discussion with your fellow gamers on other boards. Bandwidth cost the board owner plenty as it is without that stuff.

A friendly word of advise - don't P.0. the Range Officer at the gunrange and the same with Moderators here on the board.
 
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