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Just for the fun of it.....let's say worse came to worse and you could have only one firearm, a knife, and all the ammo you could carry. There would be the chance of enemy soldiers. What combo would you set up?
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OK, I'll bite. I'd go with my Glock 30 45 ACP with a spare parts kit (springs and an extractor), as many magazines as you'll allow me, and a Cold Steel Trailmaster. This gun shoots Federal Hydra Shoks into tiny clusters at 25 yards so I'd pick that as my ammo. If you weren't looking I'd sneak my Smith & Wesson 581 357 mag along too. I'll take two handguns whenever I can.

I wouldn't take a rifle since I may encounter unfriendlies. I'll just take theirs if I need one.
 

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Well, here goes. My .22 Smith kit gun in a back pocket, my model 550 Rem Semi auto .22 and a whole bunch,    ( a brick or two) of HP's. An old hunk of 1/4" steel called a "Bowie Ax", can dig with it, chop with it , hammer nails with it and pick my teeth with it if I had to. Got to be the most universal set up, can find ammo anywhere and weighs a heck alot less than Jims big Maggies.
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(Edited by Phil Uruburu at 11<!--emo&:0--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'><!--endemo-->5 pm on April 18, 2001)
 

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Great posts so far.....Let's here form some more of you out there!
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OK YOU SNAGGED ME TO JAMES, I WILL GO WITH THE LONG ARMS, MY OLD REM MOD. 870 CUT DOWN TO 20" WITH ABOUT 200RDS OF PUNKIN BALLS AND APPROX 100 RDS OF 00 BUCK. AND MY CASE XX FOLDING HUNTER. I FEEL LIKE A SWARM OF 33CAL. BALLS CHASING YOU IS HARD TO OVER COME AT 60YDS OR LESS, AND ONLY TAKES ONE OF THEM. THE SLUGS WOULD BE FOR WHEN THEY HIDE BEHIND THE 55 GAL BARRELS LIKE YOU SEE IN THE MOVIES. LOL.   JIM.
 

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OK, enough already!   I'm not out to be a hero here, just survive and make like I'm going to be in this thing for the long haul.   I'll take none other than my Savage 24 .223/20 ga.  Yep, a lowly stack barrel single shot combo gun!   .223 ammo is readily come by, both through normal channels and in the form of catpured ammo.  The shotgun is a fierce weapon at close range with slugs or #4, 3" buckshot.  With my custom Leupold quick release bases the scope comes off and goes on with no change in zero, thus allowing the use of the frame mounted Williams receiver sight.   This gun also has the original Lyman folding rear sight as yet another backup if all else fails.   New front sight bead, mainspring, extractors, extractor springs, and two firing pins are stored in the buttstock in the stock mounting screw access hole underneath the buttplate.

I can also shoot all the .22 LR that I want using my stainless steel .22 LR adaptor inserts into the .223 chamber.   Three of these in hand make for reasonably rapid reloading with .22 LR ammo.

Can't think of a more versatile survival type weapon to take afield.   Lots of ammo can be carried in the form of .22 LR and .223 without much weight, and yet with the shotgun also have much more versatility in providing victuals for survival in virtually any situation.

For cutlery I'd have to go for my Leatherman tool, and of course a good old-fashioned 6-7" USMC style blade!

Sure glad I don't have to make that choice just now however!  

God Bless,

Marshall
 

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Only one? Marlin 1897 Cowboy, .22lr w/ Williams peep, front fire sight & a sling. Couple of bricks of regular .22's and one of CB's for nearly silent operation.  It's an accurate, fast shooting, easy toting gun  that carry's lots of ammo and takes down in two pieces for discretion.  Knife would be Leatherman Wave multi-tool, low profile would be the idea.
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I'd take my High Standard heavy barrel 22 Rimfire and a couple of bricks of ammo. This little pistol is as accurate as a rifle. I have a wonderful little,4.5 inch, knife that will hold an edge and cut through most anything.
Then I'd go hunting! A shot with a 22 at the base of the skull would be quiet, instantanious. That individual's gear would be mine. Works like a charm, most every time.
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This is a hard choice! I guess Id have to say my old Stevens 325B (.30-30 bolt) with Lyman peep sights.....with this I could aquire anything else I might want.As for cutlery,I have an old timer "sharpfinger" that Ive had for about 15 years,no need to change now!

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Just one other thought here, us guys with the .22s can outrun all you other guys with all that heavy ammo so we probably wont even have to fire a shot at them bad guys. Our ammo will last FOREVER.
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I'd have to go with my suppressed AK. 210 rds in mags, 440 rds in strippers and my Benchmade automatic folder. Night vision goggles would complete this setup. Still would be a light load compared to what I usually take to a tactical exercise.
 

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Ruger 10/22 in .22 RF, with a bunch of magazines and ammo.  It has a 1.5 x 5 Burris on it, and a sling.

My Colt's Govt. Mdl. 70 .45 ACP, with Behlert adj. sights and a BarSto bbl. This pistol also shoots  shot shells without flaw, so I'd have some of them along with the regualr ammo.

My belt knife would be a 10" blade Minteral Mtn. Knife and Hatchet Works Survival Bowie. In addition, I ALWAYS have my old, standard size Camillus Stockman pocket knife with me. I've taken apart from elk down to Bob White Quail & trout with it.

(And lots of toilet paper!) L.W.
 

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I keep re reading James' origional scenerio to stay with the spirit of the thing.  From what I read, I'll exactly match the choices of MT Callahan right down to the post in the middle of the bullets.  

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OK!...This has been a great run! Notice how each member set up their game?
As for me....I am close to Marshall in thr selection of one firearm. I have a like new Mod 24 .22rf/410 with an extra 18" .22 mag/410 barrel that I thought about! But..I would have to carry my little Springfield Armory M6 Scout....22 rf/410. It has only 2 coil springs and only a few working parts. Push out one pin and it's only 18" long. I would have 5-500 rd bricks of Remington Sub Sonics, of which I would seal and hide 4 bricks around my trek. I would have 25 Brenneke slugs and 25 rds #7 1/2 shotloads. In the buttstock I would carry 15 .22rf, 2 shotshells, and 2 slugs. For edged weapons..my tried and true Collins Machete( Nice for clipping heads and cutting swamp cabbage! My Puma folding knife, GI can openers, My homemade coffee can cooker, a spool of 50 pound multi colored mono line (nice for snares and cutting throats very silent), some salt and a handful of hot peppers, and a small whet stone. Maybe a little first aid stuff. Maybe a few other odd & ends. A 10'x10' green plastic tarp. Eveything thrown into my day pack, Machete in case on side and tarp rolled tight on top. I would head for the swamps along the Gulf coast, which are much like SE Asia. I would pick one of the oak islands in the swamp and set up my base camps with punji stakes and mono trip wires. I figure I could last quite awhile before I would have to more my base camp. Silent raids out to re-supply. Never take out an enemy unless trapped. That telegraphs your existance!!! And they will look!
Oh well.....it's time to feed the bulldogs!
Best Regards, James.....Special Op's old saying was: Kill 'em all, let God sort them out!
 
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