[jjeremiahjjohns]

Am being offered a Rem Model Seven from the factory custom shop. It's a hunting rifle configuration. Some questions:

Are Model Sevens good?
What does the custom shop do to those guns that makes them 'custom'?
Seller is asking 800 for a rifle that retails for 1300. However, in asking around, people have told me to save my money...that the custom shop rifles aren't all that special, that I'm better off with a secondhand Model Seven or 700 or 70,and put the
extra money into a trigger and/or accurizing job.
Is that true? I do like the rifle, and if your input is positive, I'd like to buy it.
Seller states that the rifle is unfired.
What is a fair price to offer?

Thanks to all

 

[BCstocker]

I believe you'll get a stock of superior construction, the metal finish on the ones I've seen has been a little bit better in terms of polish. Whether they actually do any action squaring or bolt lapping seems open to opinion.

The rifle is basically a sound little unit although I would spend the dollars for an after market trigger and I dislike all the Remington safeties and would also upgrade to a model 70 type cocking piece and safety. I would guess that will amount to 250 or 300 US$ but you may not be unhappy with the factory parts.

If the price of a new standard grade model 7 is comparable to the price of the custom shop rifle (used) I would probably opt for the custom shop rifle to satisfy my curiosity providing it is in near new condition and has been shot little.

Why is it up for sale? If you can get a straight answer to that question you might know better where to jump.

best

 

[kciH]

jj,
it would be helpful to know which model and caliber the rifle is in. It's claimed the Custom Shop uses different barrels, and often different calibers are available. Of the two Remington CS guns I've shot, they where very nice and accurate. Unless it's in a configuration that you just have to have, and is not available in the regular catalog, I'd be dubious of spending the extra money for it. Remington triggers can be adjusted to levels that are very acceptable for field work.

One other thing to consider, the CS rifle will hold it's value much, much, much better than a rack rifle that so'n so worked on and put a new trigger on and did this'n that to. If you ever tire of the rifle, or just plain decide you don't like it, you'll get much more of your money back than on a tinkered with, warranty voided, rack rifle.

 

[jjeremiahjjohns]

The rifle is a MS...a cute little Mannlicher. The laminate does kinda remind you of some sort of construction material, but nice construction material.

The rifle is billed as NIB, unfired, he won it someplace, maybe a banquet, and has already sold the Leupold 3x9 scope that came on it. So he is already waaay ahead.

 

[BCstocker]

The MS is quite a sweet little rifle. I would be tempted if it were in this area. If it's new in the box it is certainly worth serious consideration.

 

[jjeremiahjjohns]

what about price?

 

[kciH]

NIB for $800? It's a steal! MSR, according to Remington's website, is $1332. You'd be laying out around $1K if you ordered one from a dealer who gave you good pricing. What caliber?

 

[jjeremiahjjohns]

.243

 

[kciH]

Good luck with it, if you decide to get it. I'm sure you won't be dissapointed with this rifle for the money.

 

[jjeremiahjjohns]

I am going to try and buy it. I just hope I didn't tick off the seller with all my questions, doubts and delays.

 

[nfmMike]

So, did you buy it?

 

[jjeremiahjjohns]

No did not buy it. I offered 700 but the seller would not move.
Pity. Thanks to all for the good advice.

 

[BCstocker]

Actually I'd up the ante. It's a very good buy at the price asked.

 

[Levergun]

Why offer 7 when the guy is asking 8 and you know it is worth 13+? I do not understand.

 

[NITRO]

JJ offered $700 because the Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (full sticker price) is $1332 with a street price (worth) of $900 to $1000. I agree with JJ because I would rather spend a little more and get one that is REALLY NIB rather than one that has a checkered past.

If I were in the market for a Mannlicher-styled short action rifle in .243 I would seriously consider the Ruger 77RSI Mark II International. The MSRP is $769 with a street price of $500-$550. Then you could apply the savings towards the purchase of a high quality scope like the Leupold Vari-X III 2.5-8x36 ($425-$450). Click below if you would like to see the Ruger.

 

[jjeremiahjjohns]

Thank you Nitro, you are right on the money...And ---no disrespect to you, LG, but why should I not try to get the most for my hard-earned? Especially given that, ultimately, things like that rifle are very much a specialty item and a luxury. I have a 30-06. I have a couple Lee-Enfields. I can hunt whitetail for the rest of my life with any of those rifles.
I don't NEED it, I can do without it. There is no urgency. Pretty much anybody who's likely to get interested in such a gun will be in a similar situation. And in downtimes, luxury goods are often hard to sell, as has been the case with that rifle. Last week the seller had a buyer. This week he's ready to bargain...some. Am I being unfair to the guy? No, I don't think so, given that there is nothing deceptive about my communication. Factor in the fact that the man won the rifle, and it seems to me things are pretty square.

And on a related topic...I've come across a Steyr L in .243, full stock, middlin' scope mounted, exc. condition claimed. Man wants 1200. Thoughts?

 

[llsierra]

Hi,
Interesting bunch of guns you are dealing with. I own two Remington Custom Shop M7s in the MS version, and standard M7 in .260. All three shoot like house afires. First time out with the 7mm-08 MS was a dead center one shot kill in a swamp. I would jump on this .243 M7 MS you have had offered to you at $700, if I get the price right. The M7 MS version is the closet moern copy of the M1903 Mannlichjer-Schoenauer, if you are into such things, and a very fine rifle. Go for it!!
LLS