[wap41]

Has anyone been using american pioneer powder?They say it's not corrosive any non fouling,sounds good but I'd like to hear it from someone that has used it.

 

[FrontierGander]

its corrosive but not like blackpowder or pyrodex. You still need to clean it at the end of the day if you like your rifle.

i will be shooting more of it today. One thing is for certain, it wants a tight loading sabot or a big heavy conical in order to maintain accuracy.

 

[Terry Koupe]

I have shot 2lbs. of Shockey's Gold thru my T/C G2 in .45cal. Very accurate with Powerbelts, cleans up easy with soap and water. Had to thoroughly swab between shots, probably my barrel.

 

[FrontierGander]

Terry, try primers like the Winchester 777, Remington Kleanbore or CCI Inline MZL primers. If you use hot primers, you'll get a hard build up down at the breech end.

 

[bsn]

It is very hydroscopic (sucks water out of the air) it has alot of good qualities but consistant accuracy and velocity isn't in the mix. Big difference in POA if its been sitting in the barrel all day, I finally gave up on it.

 

[FrontierGander]

actually the (sucks water out of the air) is very untrue. Ive had rifles loaded for a week and 2 weeks and both shot their original POI. Now if the powder does get wet, it basically will turn into a hard "Pellet" I had it happen while testing a rusted barrel, the nipple threads were letting condensation get to the powder in the bolster and it was a solid block. Fired off perfectly. Some teflon tape on the threads sealed it off from moisture after seeing that, i do it on all of my sidelocks. Consistent seating pressure is the most important thing to do while shooting the powder. You have to seat the bullet until you feel the powder compress, then its ready. It likes hard seating.

 

[MAINER]

I could not get any consistent grouping with it. It sits on my shelf.

 

[jadek]

I tried the sticks. It seemed to me that there was a bit of waste putting the square stick in the round hole.. It was easier to clean though. If you were not dilegent about the breech area it did build up a ring of crud... I wasn't impressed with it. I'll stick with my good old pyrodex ..The old Ford vs. Chevy thing

 

[cayugad]

I have shot APP and found in some rifles it shot real well. In other rifles no so well. Just like any other powder I have tested. I did like how well it cleaned up. And like said, really seat that bullet. Right now I am shooting JSG 3f and seeing what it will do.

 

[CoyoteJoe]

As to "sucks water out of the air", just delete the last five words and you've described it very well.

 

[Terry Koupe]

Thanks for the tip on primers, I have been using 777 and the Rem. Kleanbore. Maybe packing tighter?

 

[FrontierGander]

American Pioneer likes a very tight packing job. Dont get crazy though and pound on top of the bullet, Just lean your upper body weight into it.

I was shooting jim shockeys gold yesterday out at the NRA and with a new rifle. I used 80gr JSG 3f with a 295gr powerbelt. Here are my 3 shots @ 200 yards.

I most likely will shoot american pioneer 2F if it though.