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Hello from Scotland

I have been looking at the the Browning M-1000 Eclipse .300 Win mag 26" and also the Eclipse hunter .270/.30-06/7mm Rem mag 22" both have thumb hole stocks which i like and the Boss system fitted.

What do you guys reckon on this boss system ? Any good ? Worth the added noise ?
I must admit i have never heard one only going on what ive heard/read.

Which would you choose as a rifle for open country, if it was to be used "ONLY" for Deer ?  
I would like to know your reason for your choice.

Regards Englander
 

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Englander,
    I've seen a number of folks at the shooting range use the BOSS device with success. It is loud just like a muzzle brake and I wouldn't use one hunting unless I got one with a sleeve that can cover the holes. I believe I have seen this advertised though I haven't seen one in person.
     When they put the BOSS on a gun they shorten the barrel by the length of the BOSS unit so that the overall barrel length remains the same. In other words the 22" barrel is really approx. 19" of barrel + 3" of BOSS. Personally that's too short for me in a long action bottlenecked cartridge. The only one of the rifles you mentioned that I would consider would be the 26" barrelled Eclipse, and since I'm not really a magnum guy I probably wouldn't get that one either.
      Just my opinion. Guns are like ice cream flavors though- you really should just pick what you like!                   IDShooter
 

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ID Shooter thanks for the reply, interesting what you said about the barrel length -3" for the BOSS system, i had'nt really thought of that !

Also i wonder if Browning are" Missing " out on sales due to there BOSS system and directed noise ?

There certinally seems to be a large number of people who hate/dislike Marlins porting system on the guide gun and outfitter models, i believe they are now available " without" ports ?

Perhaps Browning should consider offering all there A-bolt range WITHOUT the BOSS ?

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Hi, Englander:
  Browning sells a "BOSS-CR" which is the BOSS tuning weight without the ports for retrofiting most models, $34 Canadian.   It's calibre and model specfic.  Several model are available with or without the BOSS and those with it are $100 Canadian extra.

  A friend lost some of his hearing when he was standing beside a ported .243.  Don't try to sell him on ports <!--emo&:angry:--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'><!--endemo-->

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Gentlemen,

The attractive part of the boss to me is the varible vibration feature, and i think it would have some utility to "tune" the barrel, somewhat, once a fellow arrived at the right load that he wanted.  

As for the port, I don;t care for them, reckon if a feller needs a port, he is shooting too much gun to start with.  I myself don;'t care for those rifles that make me feel like I have soaked up a good butt whippin after an afternoon at the range.

As for sales, i doubt it has hurt them, at all.  In fact, i think it helps them sell the latest and greatest super magnums.  I have an opinion on super mags as well, but that is another topic.  But, suffice to say, the gun companies have gotten very able marketers, and i think we see many industry trends based on public perception and "spin", than any degree of practical riflery.

For deer in the open, I think it would be hard to beat a good old 270 Winchester.  The only flies i see on it, is that it has maybe one or two real good heavy bullet options.  So i use mine mostly in the open.  I think a Browning 270 stalker, with portless boss, would be a pretty good rig, myself.

Good hunting fellows,

Steve
 
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