[rushtofer]

Just received an order from Buffalo Bore-Tactical Short Barrel Lower Recoil Low Flash 357 mag ammo Item 19G-125gr. JHP (quite a mouthful) When ordering from Buffalo Bore website, the photo of the ammo I ordered showed, what I believe to be Speer Gold Dot. The photo also displayed the Buffalo Bore label/box which reads Speer JHC. I assumed I would receive ammunition loaded with the Gold Dot bullet. Much to my suprise, when inspecting the ammo upon it's arrival, I was disappointed to see what appears to be a Montana Gold JHP instead of the Speer Gold Dot. ************** (edited by site admin MikeG) The Montana Gold bullet looks like a Hornady XTP with a slightly deeper cavity. Does anyone have experience with the Montana Gold bullet? Does it expand reliably? What kind of expansion am I looking at? Is there a problem with jacket/ core separation? It's still a 357 magnum, and I'm sure someone struck with one would still fold up like a card table, but I paid for Gold Dot not Mantana Gold.

 

[mjyeagle]

i dont know but an easy way to solve it is to reload better accuracy and fractions of the price

 

[MikeG]

Language, please. Suggestion, just call or email them and ask why the substitution.

 

[jmortimer]

They make no representations about the bullet other than stating it is a 125 grain JHP that penetrates 12" to 14" - if it does that then I don't get your issue. I'm sure that it will function as advertised. Otherwise get a refund and take you chances with another brand.

 

[Whitworth]

They make no representations about the bullet other than stating it is a 125 grain JHP that penetrates 12" to 14" - if it does that then I don't get your issue. I'm sure that it will function as advertised. Otherwise get a refund and take you chances with another brand.

Exactly. Tim Sundles, the owner of Buffalo Bore is a stand-up guy and I see no misrepresentation here. I have used a lot of his ammo in a number of calibers and it all performed well.

 

[don44]

I think he makes very good ammo and is a good guy.

 

[jwp475]

Just received an order from Buffalo Bore-Tactical Short Barrel Lower Recoil Low Flash 357 mag ammo Item 19G-125gr. JHP (quite a mouthful) When ordering from Buffalo Bore website, the photo of the ammo I ordered showed, what I believe to be Speer Gold Dot. The photo also displayed the Buffalo Bore label/box which reads Speer JHC. I assumed I would receive ammunition loaded with the Gold Dot bullet. Much to my suprise, when inspecting the ammo upon it's arrival, I was disappointed to see what appears to be a Montana Gold JHP instead of the Speer Gold Dot. ************** (edited by site admin MikeG) The Montana Gold bullet looks like a Hornady XTP with a slightly deeper cavity. Does anyone have experience with the Montana Gold bullet? Does it expand reliably? What kind of expansion am I looking at? Is there a problem with jacket/ core separation? It's still a 357 magnum, and I'm sure someone struck with one would still fold up like a card table, but I paid for Gold Dot not Mantana Gold.

Whatmakes you believe that a JHP always expands? I have a recovered 158 grain Gold Dot loaded by CCI Speer that lokks unfired except for the rifling marks. As long as the bullet does not over expand and penetrate well it will work

 

[trex1310]

I've bought a lot of Buffalo Bore .357 magnum and I don't recall ever seeing
Speer Gold Dots mentioned. From what I recall the advertising just says J.H.C.
I apologise if I am wrong.

 

[NDMarksman]

All I load into my 3" SP 101 is BB ammo for good reason. It's proven itself worthy during every range test I've put it through !!

 

[Tater]

I think Buffalo Bore makes absolutely top quality ammo.

 

[redhawk500]

I used to load the half jacket SWC hollow points from Speer. My reasoning was, no expansion, no problem, the shape was right. Wish mainstream JHP manufacturers would accept any hollow point can fail, so why not adjust the shape to still be effective without a shape change?

 

[Tater]

I just received a box of Buffalo Bore-Tactical Short Barrel Lower Recoil Low Flash 357 mag ammo Item 19G-125gr Jacketed Hollow Point (whew!).

I bought them for my GP100 for home defense. I will say they do not look like the bullets in the online picture but I'm not sure I care. I've never known of ammo that Tim Sundles made that wasn't as described in terms of performance.

 

[Redhawk45]

I have only accuracy and velocity as indicators of expected performance of Buffalo Bore handgun ammo but next to my hand loaded ammunition, theirs gets my vote!

 

[2Bits]

I have seen Buffalo Bore ammo and several other brands including Underwood, NOT make the velocity on occasions when 2 Chrony's were used. Now that is down side of using production ammo period! Reload them yourself and YOU have total control over the results.

 

[Whitworth]

I have seen Buffalo Bore ammo and several other brands including Underwood, NOT make the velocity on occasions when 2 Chrony's were used. Now that is down side of using production ammo period! Reload them yourself and YOU have total control over the results.

Yes, but results can vary considerably, gu to gun. I have had pleanty of ammo from Buffalo Bore handily exceed their claimed velocities. Each gun is a law unto itself.

 

[Water-Man]

I can understand the OP's disappointment. Montana does not perform as well as Gold Dot.

 

[preventec47]

Why would you waste all the extra money on "low recoil" Buffalo Bore when all you
had to buy was cheap 38 special plus P . The only way to get lower recoil
is to shoot with less power and velocity for any given weight bullet.

If you want even lower recoil 357 mag then just use the regular 38 special without the
plus P

Why the mention of chrony tested velocities for low recoil ammo ? ? ? ?

 

[jwp475]

I have seen Buffalo Bore ammo and several other brands including Underwood, NOT make the velocity on occasions when 2 Chrony's were used. Now that is down side of using production ammo period! Reload them yourself and YOU have total control over the results.

Never been my experience with either BB or Underwood in fact both gave higher than claimed speeds in my pistols in multiple calibers.

 

[RML9MM]

I know this is a old thread, just wondering what brass Buffalo Bore uses in their handgun cartridges

 

[dmsbandit]

I know this is a old thread, just wondering what brass Buffalo Bore uses in their handgun cartridges

I noticed Star brass used in their 45 Colt +P loads