[tkbigbore]

I plan on buying a mark v later this year or maybe in june and cant decide which to get .30-378,
378-weatherby,416-weatherby-460 weatherby.

I want something that doesn't have a noodle barrel and im not sure but is the 30-378 barrel thicker than a 30-06 barrel?.But I know there's a 338-378 but im already getting a Abolt in 338 win mag.
There 460has lot's of recoil but comes with the accubrake and with 450 grain ammo it's around 47 ft lbs of recoil not bad.416 weatherby is like the red headed step child and probably the most unpopular 378 based .?.

 

[EWestbrook]

Guess it depends on if you're hunting elephants or dinosaurs. The .460 would be a hoot for sure but a brake makes for a loud rifle. The 30-378 couldn't possibly have much barrel life.

 

[tkbigbore]

I know the 30-378 is a barrel killer with a 1500 rd life .Thats why i was thinking 460 since it's moving below 2700 fps most of the time .I want a mark five bad with a accubrake . but the 2 most popular 378 based are the 30-378 as being a long range elk killer and fastest 300 cal out there ..sorta .
the 460 is the biggest in the line and popular with it's penetration and knock down power overall shock and awe when you hears its name .to me all the others seem like in between calibers etc.But the 30-378 synthetic is 1125$ nib could still get a scop with that .guess i could rebarrel after that 1500 rd's barrel life..Oh yeah thats with the super fast 165,150 grains bullets how much longer would it last with the slower 200 grain @ 3100 fps and 220 grains etc .?

 

[EWestbrook]

If you could download the .460 to a more reasonable level it would be interesting to own. This way you could load to suit your game. It is a monster and suited to specific dangerous game only if there aren't any reduced loads for it.

 

[tkbigbore]

i was looking at .458 lever-evolution 325 grains bullets thinking that would be pretty interesting in a 460 weatherby .


http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=894708

could probably load to 3000 fps but ideal would be 2500-2700 fps a for a light load maybe ?

 

[mattsbox99]

Maybe you should shoot something that has that kind of recoil before you say its "not bad"... it'll smack the grin right off your face, its certainly not for the inexperienced. Why do you think most of these for sale say "shot once, dropped once, tried to get all the blood off the gun"

 

[Triggerhap2]

I don't have any experience with the 378 WBY, but I own the 416, and 460 wby's. The 416 is alot of fun to shoot. The 460 takes a bit of concentration...(although i've never dropped it, or had to clean up any blood. None of my 5 friends that have shot it had to either.)

Not sure what you are looking for, as the 30-378, and the 416/460 are designed for 2 different disciplines of hunting.
Good luck in your choice.
Triggerhap2

 

[broom_jm]

I plan on buying a mark v later this year or maybe in june and cant decide which to get .30-378,
378-weatherby,416-weatherby-460 weatherby.

I want something that doesn't have a noodle barrel and im not sure but is the 30-378 barrel thicker than a 30-06 barrel?.But I know there's a 338-378 but im already getting a Abolt in 338 win mag.
There 460has lot's of recoil but comes with the accubrake and with 450 grain ammo it's around 47 ft lbs of recoil not bad.416 weatherby is like the red headed step child and probably the most unpopular 378 based .?.

Well, based on your other thread, where you ask about 35 caliber manglums, I think you should have a custom wildcat designed on the .378 jug. A 35 Whelen on HGH. Call it the 35-ShoulderBuster You'd still get vicious recoil, but avoid a lot of the barrel erosion while burning powder by the pound and laying low half the critters in the county with but a single shot.

Just out of curiosity, TK, what's the biggest rifle cartridge you've fired, to date?

 

[MikeG]

I'll go with Matt's and cvc9444's assessment. Having shot a full-power load out of a .458 Win Mag, once, in a fairly light sporter..... "killed on both ends" was about right.

It was amazingly accurate with somewhat reduced loads, and I killed a pig with it.

Right now my .444 and .338 Win are all the recoil I want. Good luck with your project if that's what you want.

 

[Savage99]

Get what you want. Thats the fun of guns.

I had a MKV in .378 Weatherby. It shot ok but the recoil and noise took away from ever getting 'close' to the rifle.

I was afraid of getting injured as well by the recoil. Nor do I like the 'Weatherby' style or design of their rifles or cartridges.

If you must have a .375 then get a 375 H&H in an old M70.

 

[Water-Man]

Just get yourself a .340 Wtby.

 

[Tang]

I'm a recoil junky, but you need to witness a .460 being shot in person to fully appreciate it. But nothing based off the .378 case is light in the recoil department. I'm not knocking your decision at all, just be prepared. The muzzle blast of a braked .460 is going to be more fierce than the creatures it was made to hunt.

 

[Triggerhap2]

You guys gotta stop all this negative talk about the big WBY's , you're making me feel like superman.
Triggerhap2

 

[Tang]

Hey, I'm not being negative at all. I love'em ! Just warning the guy.

 

[al_sway]

While everyone is free to make up their own mind as to what rifle to buy, I read your post, as well as your other one on breaking synthetic stocks with your proposed .460. I am curious as to whether or not you have a lot of experience with these very heavy recoiling rifles, or this your entry level rifle and cartridge?
I have fired a few larger rounds, including .300 Winchester Magnum (not really considered all that large these days) and .375 H&H (also not considered large these days). Very accurate rifles, but I don't use them much anymore. I am not sure what my shooting would be like if I had started with the .300 Winchester.
Do what you want, but I am curious.

 

[Tang]

For what it's worth, the .416 is Ed Weatherby's favorite. He made it because that was the next cartridge his dad wanted to release. Roy Weatherbys favorite was the .257.

Downloading a .460 can be a dangerous proposition. I'm sure Uncle Nick could explain it better than I. But when you start using light powder charges in a case of that size, it's asking for trouble. But it should be able to push the Hornady 325gr FTX to around 3200fps from a 26" barrel. That is hauling the mail

325gr FTX, 124gr of RL15 @ 3200fps and 7389ft/lbs, BC of 0.230
200 yard zero
7.5" low at 300 yards still holding 2080fps and 3121ft/lbs
50" low at 500 yards w/ 1492fps and 1607

Recoil on this load, in a 10lb rifle would still be around 80ft/lbs

Starting to sound like fun to me !

.460 Wby. Mag.

Introduced in 1958. Considered to be the world’s largest, most powerful shoulder-fired cartridge, the .460 shoots a 500 grain bullet at 2,600 fps, delivering an incredible 7,507 foot pounds of muzzle energy. That’s 50 percent more energy than the .458 Winchester. Heavy recoil to be sure, but few hunters who need to stop a charging Rhino or Cape Buffalo complain. Nearly four tons of smashing power makes the .460 the only choice for Africa’s most dangerous game.

 

[tkbigbore]

I have a 7mm rem mag in a ruger m77.+ a 6.3 pound 3.5" 12 gauge.The later has 86 ft lbs of recoil with 30 fps recoiling velocity .Just thought i could maybe handle something in this recoil category .I didnt know that about the 416 wby it's just you dont here anything about it like the 30-378 or 460.Which after talking with some elk hunters i might start out with a 30-378 as my first wby mag and if i like it move up the line in a few years .I found a mark v synthetic for 1125$ nib.+ a 1200$ for a scope and it will be the price of a 460 .So ill prob get the 30-378

 

[Tang]

I have a 7mm rem mag in a ruger m77.+ a 6.3 pound 3.5" 12 gauge.The later has 86 ft lbs of recoil with 30 fps recoiling velocity .Just thought i could maybe handle something in this recoil category .I didnt know that about the 416 wby it's just you dont here anything about it like the 30-378 or 460.Which after talking with some elk hunters i might start out with a 30-378 as my first wby mag and if i like it move up the line in a few years .I found a mark v synthetic for 1125$ nib.+ a 1200$ for a scope and it will be the price of a 460 .So ill prob get the 30-378

I believe the .338-378 has more potential. Not quite as overbore, or as bad on barrels. Plus the 300gr Sierra Matchkings fly very well. It can also be had in the Synthetic Mark V. Give it some thought.