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Hello,

I would like to buy a rifle for target shooting but also for hunting at long ranges.
I have been looking for several rifles but I don't now with I have to buy.

I can chose between those rifles:
- Tikka T3 lite stainless
- Remington 700 sps DM
- Remington 770 sporter
- Winchester model 70 coyote lite
- Weatherby vanguard DBM
- Browning X-bolt stainless stalker

Can someone help me out of my problem.




P.S. Sorry for the spelling mistaces.
 

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Welcome. I see you are joining us from France. What animals do you think you would hunt and at what ranges?

Also, do you load your own ammunition?
 

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Vipinaiter,

Welcome to ShootersForum. :)

All of the rifles you list are good choices for hunting, especially in rugged terrain where weight of the gun is a concern. I don't think any of them are really ideal as target rifles, so if you choose from one of these you may, or may not, get extremely good accuracy.

You listed your goals as a target rifle that you could hunt with, but the ones you listed are hunting rifles you could shoot from the bench. If you want a gun that is first and foremost a target rifle, I wouldn't recommend any of these. If you want a very accurate rifle look for something with a heavier barrel design and possibly an improved trigger. A Savage rifle with bull barrel and Accutrigger would probably suit your needs very well.
 

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Welcome to the forum,

I've spent some time in France and your troops are doing a good job over here in Afghanistan. I would suggest that you drop off your list the Remington 770. Its the bottom grade for Remington. I would think that you would be looking for either a 30-06,.308 Winchester or 6.5x55. These three cartridges are popular around the world and getting good match and hunting ammo should be much of a problem. Good shooting and good hunting.

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I have a Tikka T3 hunter in .308 WIN with blue barrel. It shoots great and I recommend it for accuracy and dependability. It is ugly and feels cheap, but it shoots and handles great. I am sure that several other rifles you have mentioned are good also. Best wishes.
 

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I'm a Winchester kind of guy but my first choice if you want target accuracy would be a .223 in a heavy barreled M700 Remington. Accurate to a fault, right out of the box and the .223 won't burn out your barrel after a few thousand rounds.

I owned one in .22-250 and got several thousand rounds of handloads out of it before accuracy began to suffer. Mate a good quality scope to it, a variable most likely, and have fun with it.
 

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Off the top of my head, it occurs to me that the French may not be allowed to use military and ex-military chamberings? Something I read in the past....

If true, that would potentially rule out the .223, .308, and .30-06. Perhaps our new member can give a list of what is available and help narrow down the choice that way.
 

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I would like to shoot some hogs, some fow and some deers.
I don't make my own amunition.
In france we may use all bullet type exepted the 22LR.
The gun will be used 90% of the time as a target shooting gun.
And so 10% of the time as a hunting gun.

Can you please recomand me witch gun I have to buy and with what ammo.
My Rifle price is maximum 1000 dollars.

Thanks for respounding.
 

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Vipinaiter,
The Weatherby and the Browning are both excellent rifles. A .308 would
be a good choice for both target and hunting small to medium sized animals.
Whatever your decision, good luck with it.

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Hard to say what you like....but most can tell you what they like and that doesn't mean much. You have some nice choices listed, would suggest you visit the manufacturers websites, make comparisons that interest you and handle as many rifles as possible. Pick a rifle then start researching calibers.
Do you have gunshops in France?
 

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Hard to say what you like....but most can tell you what they like and that doesn't mean much. You have some nice choices listed, would suggest you visit the manufacturers websites, make comparisons that interest you and handle as many rifles as possible. Pick a rifle then start researching calibers.
Do you have gunshops in France?

Yes we have some gunshops. And There are also great gunshops in luxembourg.
My problem is that some said that I needed to look for a heavier barral.
The only one I found that are on my budget are remingtons and one Winchester.
 

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A rifle with a heavier barrel is typically going to give a little better accuracy, but if that is not in your budget, just get the rifle you like the most and have fun shooting it. :)
 

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I can tell you that I bought a Remington 700 SPS in a .308 a few years ago, and use that as my "go-to" hunting rifle. Shoots well in all conditions, and have yet to have a malfunction. Accuracy out of the box was good enough for the average hunter, and by that I mean the guy (like myself) that does not do trigger jobs, bedding, and all that extra stuff. I bought it, mounted a Nikon scope, and went shooting. I love it. Good luck to you with your hunt in the gunshop as well as in the field...
 

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Welcome!

A list of the available ammunition that you could buy would be most helpful. Steering toward a particular cartridge may have some advantage when choosing a rifle.

That said, I would opt for the Remington 700, regardless of barrel weight. The fully adjustable trigger and typically accurate "out-of-the-box" barrels make it a rifleman's choice. And more custom guns start out with a Remington 700 action than even the Mauser.

Vous direz bien des chose chez vous! (I hoped I spelled that correctly.)

CCAguns from Louisiana:)
 

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Why are you limiting yourself to these rifles only ?
I agree for target shooting one with a heavy barrel would probably be better than the standard hunting version .
You say you have a Thousand $ to spend . Then what is that in American money and how much would say a Rem 700 or a Tikka T#3 cost with your money .

Then were are you going to shoot @ targets ? Pay a visit and see what the guys are shooting and why .
 

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I understand.
I think I haven't been cleer on my explination.

I would like to buy a Rifle. Wy?
Becaus I would like to do some 300 yards shooting competition. But I also would like to hunt with it.
The hunting will probabely be at a maximum range of 700/800 yards.

Can someone of you recomand me a rifle and also his ammunition. The budget that I have is 1000 Amerika Dollars.

Thanks or the help.
 

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For long range hunting, one would typically recomment a magnum. But if you're unaccustomed to shooting, the recoil would take some getting used to. Buy a Remington 700 in .270 Winchester and get used to shooting it at 300 yards - you'll find it very accurate. Then graduate to practicing at 500 yards, then 700 yards. You'll enjoy the 270 and, if recoil is no problem, you may want a big magnum later.

Good luck!:)
 

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Hello, I would like to buy a rifle for target shooting but also for hunting at long ranges. I have been looking for several rifles but I don't now with I have to buy. I can chose between those rifles:

- Tikka T3 lite stainless
- Remington 700 sps DM
- Remington 770 sporter
- Winchester model 70 coyote lite
- Weatherby vanguard DBM
- Browning X-bolt stainless stalker

Can someone help me out of my problem.

P.S. Sorry for the spelling mistaces.

Get a target rifle for targets and a hunting rifle for hunting.

AND don't mix the 2 up!!!
 

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Forget about hunting to 700 yards. If you are just starting, you need to do a LOT of target practice to even shoot animals half that far. Trust me, when you've worn out a couple of barrels at the target range, then you can think about shooting animals out past 300 or 400 yards.

It's harder than it looks!
 
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