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I have been pondering this for sometime now and would like to hear from others if there are any negatives in doing this project other than spending money.

I am considering converting a 300 Ultra mag model 70 Winchester Classic Stainless into making a 338/300 Ultra mag out of my current rifle. Question is how much more percentage wise will it give in power (if any) over the already produced factory gun of Remington in a 338 Ultra mag?
 

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Mystickplayer thanks for the come back. I have decided to go ahead with this project and be the proud owner of a wildcat in a 338/300 Ultra Mag in spite of what some say about the recoil. It should make me a good long range elk buster in the near future. I maybe wrong but with a good stock, it shouldn't kick anymore than a friend of mine's 340 Weatherby. ;)
 

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Well guys I was almost talked into leaving this project by the way side, for fear of the recoil stopping my heart. Ya just can't believe all ya hear these days or read in the newspaper.:D

Mystickplayer............ I am researching those stocks myself at the present time and hope to come up with a solid solution that will help out with sighting through the scope without pains and recoil too......thanks!

Nap....I can't really say one way or another, but I do know that the Barnes XLC blue bullet in the 210 grain is all a hunter would need for elk. One of my hunting buddies uses that same bullet in his .340 Weatherby. He says its the only caliber for him, or bullet for that matter. He has shot 3 shot one hole groups with his gun at the rifle range. I witnessed the shooting myself. One gun hunts all, in his words.

I am debating on the barrel maker at the moment. I been thinking about one of those 26 inch stainless barrels that has been fluted. Others say they aren't worth the exspense and don't cool any better than a plane barrel, as far as hunting in the field.

Now getting back to that 210 grain Barnes XLC bullet, it does penetrate 25 % deeper than other brands of bullets. We did some testing ourselves a while back with my friends .340 Weatherby into 50lb clay (modeling crafts) blocks so the lighter weight 210 grain bullet should I figure, penetrate as deep as a 225 grain Nosler or 230 grain Bear Claw into a bull elks body. If I get close to 3200 fps with any kind of accuracy, I will be happy as a birthday boy sitting behind his cake LOL.:D
 

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Well fella's I appreciate your come back on this project of mine. I shall secure a 26 inch stainless fluted barrel and see how things go down the road in a month or so. The stock will be a fiberglass or kevlar composite type. The scope will be a Leupold 4 x 12 for long range shooting well beyond that 350 yard marker.

Zeppelin......I already have the 300 Ultra mag and besides I don't care much for those muzzle breaks Weatherby installs or their cannons. This rifle is for long range elk hunting, I have a short barrel 338's to lug around in the dark timber, one with a short 23 inch barrel. It shoots a 250 grain Swift A Frame at 2650fps.

This 338/300Ultra mag will be doing some where around 3250fps I figure, give or take a foot or two, using the 210 grain Barnes XLC bullet or maybe the 225 grainer ( At 3140fps) if it produces a better group from the bench. Time will only tell! In any event it should prove to be a real thumper on those big bull elk in the future.
 

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:D :D Zeppy.......I already have a 416 Rem mag and the .458 LOTT, not to mention the 470 Capstick. There are a little short on yardage however. This project I have been working on for sometime, is one that gives ample bullet weight, along with plenty of velocity and not to mention down range kenetic energy to the target at 600 yards. I also like being the only one in camp with such a distinct caliber rifle. The barrel is stainless and fluted too, thanks for the advice guys. Oh, by the way it is on a model 70 pre-64 action, just like all my other big game rifles.......Cheers 2Bits! :D :D :D
 

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Well gents, just so you know, my project did get finished but shooting that puppy is not all peaches & cream from the bench and that is a true fact. It generates close to 60-felt pounds of recoil, which is tuff to deal with at the bench.

I did NOT make a 15 pound rifle out of this project because I planned on using it while hunting. To mean I would be walking up and down mountain benches at elv. from 6 to 9,500 ft. I did that 10-lb rifle deal once or twice in my younger years with a .375H&H and my arms felt like wet string at the end of the day.

I sold this rifle once and traded it back after that, it sits in the vault and in all honesty I don't shoot it much........to much recoil even with a pad or two. Not near as accurate long range as my .300 Win mag of many years pushing a 190 grain bullet. I hate the looks of muzzle brakes so that is not an option for me. Thanks to those that gave me information but I am going to retire to shooting my 6.5/05 and .338/06. Thanks once again to those who posted. TRACER........aka 2BITS.:)
 
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