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Hi all quick question : dose flash hole deburring make any difference to accuracy ,only advantage i see is in large case with a magnum primer in very cold conditions to help with a clean burn........... (y)
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It does in my .243 varmint rifle shooting 58 grain Vmax's on top of H4350 and in my 300RUM. I'm guessing the burrs left behind interfere with the powder ignition?

RJ
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Thanks recoil junky but we are talking hunting rounds , I use ADI brass locally in OZZ ,flashole are pretty good very good brass ,just wondering if the extra process in reloading it................thanks
I do it to eliminate one more variable, in the interest of consistency. If there is a problem with the load, you can eliminate that as a possibility.
As far as hunting accuracy goes, it might not make an appreciable difference, until target size is decreased and range is increased.
I like to use the most accurate load that I can get, to allow for the most error on my part. I try to use a rest on shots at any distance over 50 yards.
It does boost confidence when you know you can put them on top of each other at a hundred. I've made a lot of deer laydown, that never knew they were dead.
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Like said, anything to eliminate variables and make more consistent ammo will improve accuracy. Big question is how much and will it make a difference between success and failure for what you are doing. Clawed 1’s first 2 sentences are the answer.
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Deburring may or may not help.
Is highly unlikely to hurt.
It only needs to be done once.
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I started doing it in the 1980's when I got into benchrest shooting, where anything you can do in case prep. can be an asset. I then spread the practice to all rifle chamberings I have. I totally agree with those above...it's a one time deal and any variable you can eliminate instills that much more confidence in your loads, and that is never a 'bad thing'.
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Hi all quick question : dose flash hole deburring make any difference to accuracy
Only you can answer that, after testing.
I've never once found a hanging Chad in my brass, so have had zero reason to do anything to them.

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It can't hurt to do it. Some brass I've done has had an a lot of burrs in the flash hole. Can't see getting a consistent ignition with that being the case.
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It can't hurt to do it. Some brass I've done has had an a lot of burrs in the flash hole. Can't see getting a consistent ignition with that being the case.
I've observed many burrs that were very 'lopsided', meaning very tall on one side of the hole and non-existent on the other side (relatively speaking). That can be the nature of a punched hole operation, material displacement is uncontrolled, and goes where it wants to go. Many in the BR community believed that when the 'fat cases', i.e. 22 Rem. BR and PPC came into play, the wider/shorter powder column (than the previous slender/longer 222 Rem. and 6 x 47 Rem. Mag. type cases) was more susceptible to variations in ignition due to such 'lopsided' burrs. Removing those burrs were part of the overall solution toward ammo excellence. One believes what one believes until proven otherwise. For now, I deburr.
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Probably one of those "feel good" practices, but I've deburred and improved case flashholes on all centerfire brass as a matter of course. Doesn't hurt a thing doing it.
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I only debur the ones that have to be neck turned and after trimming so each debur is the same depth IF the bases are consistent which is sorted out in the weighing part of the sorting. After going through the work needed to make each case as 'right' as possible, deburring is just one of the many steps.
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after trimming so each debur is the same depth
Jack, My tool comes from the 1980's from the BR custom crowd (I think it is a Sinclair), long before the mainstream (Lyman, Hornady, et al) companies offered such 'luxury items'. Similar to the K & M unit shown below, it has a sleeve near the tip, just behind the countersink drill bit deburr tip (which also chamfers), that prevents any over depth effect, since it is non-case length sensitive.


The tip of mine looks like this photo:
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Edit: Found it! This is like mine, they used a 'wire nut' to facilitate rotating the devise:
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Hand tool Household hardware Tool Finger Metalworking hand tool


BTW: Mine is a K&M, not a Sinclair. Note the last paragraph:
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Great pictures of what it means to uniform flash holes.

All my tools are copies of Sinclair, Wilson and others seen in BR catalogs or mentioned in magazine articles. I've adapted some tools to do different things, like turn necks on the lathe without having to turn it off and on. When you have tools you can make tools, too.
In 1969, I traded for a BR rifle with all the tools to make 6x47 cases uniform and 'right'. I've pretty much copied them on other projects and wildcats since then.
I traveled for a living for eight years an territory infested with pasture maggots so I made up a Kennedy tool box holding everything I needed to load three calibers in motel rooms including case prep. The base for several tools and ways to use them.

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Great pictures of what it means to uniform flash holes.
All my tools are copies of Sinclair, Wilson and others seen in BR catalogs or mentioned in magazine articles. I've adapted some tools to do different things, like turn necks on the lathe without having to turn it off and on. When you have tools you can make tools, too.
Take a look back at my recent 'BTW' edit, I found a write up on that tool from an old 6mm BR.com site that gives a pretty good detailed review and it's operation/benefits. A good tool to copy.:);)
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For a time, I had my uniformer adapted to a battery operated pencil sharpener. It worked great but not long enough to make another when the magic smoke escaped.
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Some of this thread is related to why "hand-loaders" can make ammunition that is better than factories can.
Factories don't care about much more than money.
"Hand-loaders" "can" care about quality or money as they choose.
Can be a balance if they want.
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For a time, I had my uniformer adapted to a battery operated pencil sharpener. It worked great but not long enough to make another when the magic smoke escaped.
We can be a creative lot. My Daughter was born in 1972. When she grew tired of a talking doll, I used the battery powered motor driven voice box. It had a 2" (roughly) diameter plastic wheel that had the 'voice grooves' (like a vinyl record) driven by a tiny motor. I mounted (glued) an RCBS powder trickler to a 1/8" thick plywood, put a rubber band around the wheel that was mounted on the motor shaft. I put the rubber band wheel in friction contact with the trickler shaft and mounted the battery holder (one AA) on the plywood, cut the wire in two and soldered a short piece of spring steel to one end of the wire which bridged across the gap to make contact with the other end of the wire. I could push the spring down to rotate the trickler without taking my eye off of scale balance beam as it rose to zero. The tricky part was finding drive rubber bands with consistent thickness, as the thin parts would loose contact with the trickler shaft. After a couple of years of use, I converted to using a Black and Decker battery powered screw driver with a hex adapter that fit the trickler shaft...much more consistent. Nobody had yet come out with a commercial powered trickler at the time.
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I've never once found a hanging Chad in my brass, so have had zero reason to do anything to them.
Darkker, Nor have I, at least in the sense and definition of a 'hanging Chad', like the paper 'flaps' of the infamous 2000 election. That is not going to happen in this brass case example.
The burrs that I was referencing, and am most familiar with, are represented in the cutaway case on the left in this thumbnail image. If you click on it and + it, it is evident that the burr is more exaggerated, from about 7:00 to maybe 3:00, than the lesser burr on the remainder. I'm not suggesting that this has great significance as relates to variables in performance, only that it does exist. I agree with others, that it is just as likely to be a 'feel better' situation....to which I too have succumbed! How people choose to spend their time will forever be a curiosity. Another way to say that is; If a person is delusional about something long enough, it becomes their reality, so if no harm...no foul! And, I've been called much worse than 'delusional'! ;)

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Hay, all i can is whooow.....see the differance well its been added to my prep to do list next question :type of tool and a brand.....
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