Marshall Stanton said:
MikeG said:I would buy new brass, fire-form it in that rifle only, and if you end up doing full-length resizing, be careful to not set the shoulder of the case back much at all with the f/l die.
MikeG said:The collet dies only resize the neck. A 'regular' full-length die sets the shoulder back a bit and makes the body of the case a little smaller (and requires case lube).
Since .30-30 brass is cheap, why don't you start with the collet die, and see how many reloads you get before the cases won't chamber easily? Then you can decide how much you want to shoot in a year and work out the cost/benefit of a full-length sizing die.
william iorg said:DZ
The reason everyone is saying get the AI dies while they are cheap is that you will eventualy want them and they can take your breath away when you pay full reatail. i gave $117.00 for an RCBs set and my father gave about $80.00 for a set by Redding.
dzrtram said:Darn, the Lees only cost $22.95 through Natchez. I will order them right now, but I'm still confused as to why I need them when everyone is loading the AI with regular dies.
Thanks for your patience. I just like to do my homework completely before investing money that may turn out to be unnecessary.
With the AI's, I wouln't trim at all until after the fire forming. When the case is fire formed and blown out to chamber demensions, that brass has to come from somewhere. With the case head well supported by the bolt or breach block, that brass comes from a shortened neck.Get a standard .30-30 Lee case trimmer. Trim before you size. You will not need to do it often.