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I'm not sure if "Factory Custom" is the correct phrase for this gun, but I thought it was an interesting link none-the-less. MR_TW from the forum here sent this to me. It's a gorgeous highwall with all sorts of bells and whistles. If anyone can give me more information on this gun (in particular the scope), I would be interested to hear it (no I'm not buying it) but I'm just posting it here for others' interest sake.


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Man, that sure does bring back another era. I remember when rifles
like that (not that ornate) were all over the place. A lot of varmint
hunters rebarrelled them to modern flat shooting calibers such as
the .219 Donaldson Wasp. Then they slowly faded away.
Thanks Matt.


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I think you are speaking of the Winchester Model 1885 Scheutzen Rifle. I am fortunate to own one that letters with cody built in 1907. These guns still hold records for off hand shooting at 200 yards. Several of them just sold at an Amoskeag auction without any engraving and were bringing around $12,500. What a great piece of history.

Here is my 38-55 with #4 barrel, nickle helm plate, wingauge front sight, vernier tang sight, set trigger, handlebar palm rest, and scheutzen stock.

Here was the auction:

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[If anyone can give me more information on this gun (in particular the scope)]

The Winchester A5 scope was introduced in America in 1909 and remained in production until 1928 , some 3200 in toto - it was a long-term favourite of target rifle shooters.

It is 16" long and 0.75" in diameter, with a steel tube, 5x magnification and external ½MOA elevation/windage adjustments.
Most specified a crosshair reticle but a few with single crosshair examples are known to exist along with a handful of the slightly shorter 4x magnification Winchester B4 scopes.

The scopes mounted on service rifles sometimes had the rifle's serial number engraved on the side of the steel tube.

One of the Winchester A5's drawbacks compared to other scopes was that it was somewhat fragile: it could easily be knocked out of zero.
It also had a narrow field of view; lower light gathering capability which restricted its use at dawn and dusk; and a requirement to pull it back into battery after each shot because the scope moved forward in recoil.
Lastly, the external surface of the tube had to be kept scrupulously clean in order for the external adjustments to work properly and consistently.
Despite these faults it was a popular and accurate scope, praised for its easy windage and elevation adjustments.

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