I don't see a 6PPC in the bunch! I was expecting pink plastic BR rifles! Dang Dyslexia takes the nuf out of life.
My benchrest rifle pre-dated the PPC dominance, it was a Shilen DGA in .222 and it was bright blue, with white racing stripes. I got that bug out of my system almost 30 years ago.I don't see a 6PPC in the bunch! I was expecting pink plastic BR rifles! Dang Dyslexia takes the nuf out of life.
Just depends on your definition of “best” but the M1 Carbine with soft points or JHP’s is very effective inside 150 yards. Indoors, if you miss keep in mind that the .30 Carbine generally tends to have greater barrier penetration inside 100 yards than the vast majority of 5.56. The Winchester JHP is WAY better than you would think it was (not sure if they still make it), but I consider it a good deal better than the Hornady. I have never used the Cor-Bon load, but it looks rather promising. I have leveled a few yotes with the Winchester and the Corbon, but the Winchester was a bit more impressive. However, if you need to shoot through a barrier, the Hornady or Cor-Bon may be a better choice. But inside, or immediately around the house, any of the expanding .30 Carbine rounds will be very effective.I'm starting to come around to the realization that the M-1 Carbine may be the best home defense carbine currently available.... especially with softpoint/hollowpoint bullets. This after 40 yrs of being a firearms enthusiast.
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t like to shoot an M1 Carbine. My Carbine is a big favorite with my kids and when I’m gone I’m sure there will be a family Holy War over who get’s dad’s M1.I keep a Carbine around with plenty of ammo for the kids to step up from a .22.
Fun for all ages is a Carbine.
I love the M1 carbine too, and that might be the prettiest stock on one I’ve ever seen.Over the years I have accidentally ended up with, what I think, is a cool PCC collection. Clearly I'm into older guns, so no AR's for me.
Of the 4 I think my favorite will always be my first love...the M1 Carbine. It was one of the first rifles I bought with my own money, and since I was working as a gunsmith for a small arms importer, I got to pick from 11,000 carbines to find my little carbine.
I have also learned that back in the day, the .22lr was a VERY good ballistic analogue for the pistol length WCF cartridges. The trajectories are close enough out to about 150 yards, that most any good hand with a .22lr could be capable of an offhand hit at 150 yards pretty easy with a WCF centerfire at standard velocities.
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If you think it is good with soft points, Try it with Hornady 90 grain XTP bulletsI'm starting to come around to the realization that the M-1 Carbine may be the best home defense carbine currently available.... especially with softpoint/hollowpoint bullets. This after 40 yrs of being a firearms enthusiast.
I'm not worried about barrier penetrations in my suburban/rural hood. Houses are on 1.0+ acre lots, so I would not be shooting through an adjacent Apartment/Duplex/Townhome wall. If I can't hit a human debris target inside of 30 feet with the carbine, then I'll be selling it off. From point A to point B on my property, the longest distance would be about 150 yards.Just depends on your definition of “best” but the M1 Carbine with soft points or JHP’s is very effective inside 150 yards. Indoors, if you miss keep in mind that the .30 Carbine generally tends to have greater barrier penetration inside 100 yards than the vast majority of 5.56.
The later pot bellied M2 birch stocks on reworked M1s are not as valued by collectors, but many of them have some nice tiger stripe figure in them. That one is way better than most.I love the M1 carbine too, and that might be the prettiest stock on one I’ve ever seen.
I agree. It was after all designed as a personal defense weapon to substitute for the 1911 with rear area and support troops who for the most part could not hit the broad side of a barn with the 1911, let alone hit an enemy combatant at 100 yards with a 1911.I'm starting to come around to the realization that the M-1 Carbine may be the best home defense carbine currently available.... especially with softpoint/hollowpoint bullets. This after 40 yrs of being a firearms enthusiast.
I looked right past it too! Problem is, I'm still struggling with PCC, I'm clueless (??)!I don't see a 6PPC in the bunch! I was expecting pink plastic BR rifles! Dang Dyslexia takes the nuf out of life.
I'm still struggling with PCC, I'm clueless (??)!
Thanks...never to old to learn!Pistol Caliber Carbines
As an OG ('Old Guy'), what is the modern/current 'need' to use acronyms for just about anything being discussed? Are we really that short of time, that we have to make our communications a 'guessing game' with seemingly every subject discussed? Maybe, it's just being 'hip', and I ain't 'hip'!Pistol Caliber Carbines
One may be tempted to suggest that the "old guys" are who started it.As an OG ('Old Guy'), what is the modern/current 'need' to use acronyms for just about anything being discussed?
Perhaps, but I've learned that my trying to be 'hip' can get you unexpected reactions to acronyms that may have benefited by more thorough thought before posting. We have an old quarry nearby, that has a boat launch ramp that is at times made available to the public. I posted an acronym to a buddy to see if he would like to join me for the evening. It went like this: "Let's Go Boating Tonight, Quarry Is Available ? The acronym prompted mixed reaction!One may be tempted to suggest that the "old guys" are who started it.
The PWA under the 'New Deal', being but one example of brevity being used since long before modern/current times.😉😉