[twpbaseball10]

Hey everyone. question i have today is about getting an ffl. Any one ever get one? how do you get it? is it hard to get and is it worth it? reason i ask is because right now im only 18 and i shop on gunbroker a lot when i get great deals and now that i have my NJ gun permit i can go buy guns which im going to do a lot of. but.... the transfers are really expensive and in nj you have to pay an extra 15 dollars for the backround check so i was trying to plan out if when im 21 would it be worth getting ffl. i get guns sent to the shop all the time so i figured the amout i will be saving from transfers will pay off my ffl every year. it defidently seems like its wourth it but i just wanted everyones thoughts. thanks

 

[mattsbox99]

You need to have a storefront business to get an FFL, the rest is pretty easy. Fill out the form, get fingerprints, signature from Sheriff or Chief of Police, pay the fee, wait, wait some more, wait a little more, then get things going. There may be other complications associated with New Jersey but for the 35 or so free states, there are relatively few problems.

Here is the website where you can order the forms for free.

http://www.atf.gov/forms/dcof/

 

[Marshal Kane]

You need to have a storefront business to get an FFL . . .

Believe matts right. The Feds no longer want FFL holders doing transactions just for themselves so a lot of FFL holders are letting their licenses expire as the open to the public business hours, storefront, records keeping, unannounced auditing, etc. are getting way too complicated not to even mention State requirements that seem to change every month.

 

[jodum]

I had a FFL for a number of years and ran a business out of my shop at home. You are now required to have a store front business to apply for a FFL. I can tell you from experience if you are doing it for the benefit of being able to buy wholesale for you and your friends, it will be a lot cheaper and a lot less hassle to just pay the markup. Any location that is listed as the place of business on the FFL is open to inspection by the ATF at anytime. All guns at that location even if they are personal are required to be on the books and cannot be removed from the location without completing a 4473 form with background check.

 

[broom_jm]

"the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"...just taxed, regulated and restricted such that it is less hassle and expense to become a ward of the state, completely dependent on them for the safety and well-being of your self and family.

I sincerely hope this pendulum eventually swings back the other way, at least a little.

 

[zb338]

I'm an FFL dealer in New Jersey. The hardest part nowadays is that you have to be
in a non-residential area. I happen to be grandfathered. I live in a residential area
and dealers can no longer set up businesses in residential areas here in N.J.. You
also must have a New Jersey State firearms license and a tax number which means
you will pay State Taxes to the State Government. As Matt said the rest is fairly easy.
You will be visited by the BATF and the New Jersey State Police. They will check your
books. I'm not sure, but I think you must be 21 years of age. If I can be of any further
assistance, email me and I will try to help you out. I'm moving to Pa. in a few months.
I just can't do New Jersey anymore.
Zeke

 

[mattsbox99]

One little hang up out here is that the Feds require a copy of your business license, but many places out here don't issue business licenses. Havre just has a self reporting form at the court house, but many towns don't even have that. We also don't do the whole zoning thing either, its either city limits or county out here.

 

[moosepucky]

The age requirement for obtaining an FFL is 21

Any FFL regardless of the type has a minimum age of 21 as the requirement.

When you get a little older and if your interest moves into older firearms (over 50 years old) you can get an C&R FFL which will allow you to acquire and dispose of firearms that are older than 50 years old for the purpose of adding to or maintaining a collection. You can NOT be in the business of selling firearms with a C&R as it is only a firearm collectors license NOT a dealers license.

Here is a little more info on a C&R license and the firearms that fall under this license.

http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/

 

[Mr. C]

I finally got fed up with all the hassles and sent my FFL and FEL back where it came from.

 

[gmd3006]

I know a couple of dealers here in NY who sell out of their homes - no storefront or signage. In NY, one also must have a state FL.

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[mattsbox99]

Yes, for many years you could have a home business and obtain an FFL. Many gunsmiths were that way and they were all grandfathered into the new rules, they were allowed to renew their licenses under the old rules, but if they expired and wanted a new one they had to comply with the new rules.