[buckeyevet]

I have a second generation Glock 21. I have installed a stainless steel guide rod, and a recoil buffer. What else can I do to improve ? It shoots much better now,

 

[pruhdlr]

My Glox

I own a couple of Glocks,one of which is a Glock 20.

I would recommend the following. (CAUTION ---> this is simply my opinion so lets not argue.)

Loose that buffer, for reliability reasons. SS guide rod ok, but really not needed. First thing is install a 3.5# connector. This will NOT automatically bring your trigger pull down to 3 1/2 pounds as some think. It will bring it down to somewhere around 4.5lbs though.

Next go to the Glock Talk site and download the $0.25 Trigger Job. Use a Dremmel Tool,turned at the slowest speed. Do not allow any parts to heat up beyond warm to the touch. Use a polishing compound ONLY,applied to a small felt/cotton wheel. Shine/buff the small areas shown on the instructions til they look like chrome.

Keep that Glock(at least) oiled to the factory specs. I use a super small dab of Tetra Gun Grease applied with a Q-Tip on the spots that you buffed and the slide rails.

Any more help you need with that Glock just ask.....I will gladly give you my 2-4 cents worth.

Good Shootin' ----pruhdlr

 

[buckeyevet]

glock 21

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

 

[2Bits]

I must ask why! I have a few Glocks and I can tell you right off I don't need to operate on any of them for them to shoot well at the range. I figure that if Gaston wanted all these extra things put into one of his pistols in order for it to work properly, he would have done so at the factory. My Pappy used to say, "Son if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Now I have put an after market barrel in one of my model 20 Glocks and the lighter Glock trigger but that is all that was done and it shoots great, as it is now a 9 x 25 cal. with a lot more velocity but this was a fun project so to speak. It whizzes a bullet out the barrel at around 1650 fps. A little like the .357-Sig but faster you bet.

 

[buckeyevet]

glock 21

I was not disappointed with the way my Glock shot. I know what you mean by if it ain't broke don't fix it. I had an older man tell me once to never replace an x with a ?. That's why when I buy something and am pleased, I stick with it.

I read on another forum that doing what I did to my 21 would reduce muzzle jump and make it easier to get your next shot where it should be.

I do have another question however, I am right handed and everything I do tends to drift to the right, I.E. hitting a golf ball, shooting a basketball etc, I do just fine with a rifle(qualified expert in the military) but have been experimenting with different ways of gripping the gun, anybody have any help in this area?

 

[2Bits]

I shoot all my Glocks basically right handed with the left hand griping the side of the pistol with the left thumb on top holding the right thumb downward and put equal pressure on the pistol's grip with both hands.

I do NOT hold the pistol underneath with the left hand, like I see so many folks do at the shooting ranges. This is a Hollywood idea of sorts! If the right hand is strong on the grip, chances are you will shoot to the right etc. This is why equal pressure is a must and proper alignment of the front and rear sight are a must also. Good Luck

 

[buckeyevet]

glock 21

Thanks Tracer, I'll give it a try.

SP4 Jerry Leiss
HHC 4TH TC
APO SF 96491
U.S. Army Vietnam 1970-71

 

[m141a]

I'm now on my third Glock, this one a G23 in 40cal.
Own a 9mm [G19] and a 45acp. [G30]

The glock [in general] is accurate, dependable and reliable right out of the box.
The factory guide rods work fine.
Depending on your use of it, you might consider nite sights, but they are SURELY NOT NECESSARY!!!!
Do get the 3.5 connector, and do purchase the disassembly tool.
I purchased the G23 with about 500 rounds thru it; the owner installed extended mag release & extended slide stop. They were immediately changed back to factory parts.
The 3.5 connector will lessen the trigger pull, but will also make it consistant.....that's not to say that the factory 5.5# is not.
Do keep it lubed, as they recommend! Do shoot it often, as the more you do, the better they get.
Don't shoot lead....they don't like that, as the rifling is polygonal, and loads up with lead, and can lead to a KaBooooooom!!!!!.

 

[m141a]

I shoot all my Glocks basically right handed with the left hand griping the side of the pistol with the left thumb on top holding the right thumb downward and put equal pressure on the pistol's grip with both hands.

I do NOT hold the pistol underneath with the left hand, like I see so many folks do at the shooting ranges. This is a Hollywood idea of sorts! If the right hand is strong on the grip, chances are you will shoot to the right etc. This is why equal pressure is a must and proper alignment of the front and rear sight are a must also. Good Luck

Good advice from Tracer. Shoot it slow. If you are grouping, meaning you are shooting it consistantly, and your sight alignment is correct, it might be that you just need to drift the rear sight a touch....

 

[buckeyevet]

Thanks

Thanks to M141A Your info is greatly appreciated. I should have asked these questions before purchasing the extras. The Glock Store is here in San Diego, so I can pick up my order to save shipping.

I am also considering buying a handgun for my wife, and any and all advice will be appreciated. She isn't keen on noise, so a smaller caliber will definitely be a factor.

I know there are many opinions, (Ford Chevy thing) but I listen and respect advice from people on forums.

 

[2Bits]

Buckeyevet........I now own 8 Glock pistols in various calibers and the wife has now gotten her 3rd Glock. I picked up my very first Glock do to the advice of a younger man who owns a shooting range and gunstore. He is also a Glock Armror too!

I asked him sometime ago about all the add-ons for Glocks, his words to me were simply this: Those things are NOT NEEDED and can cause your pistol problems. The 3.5 lb trigger is ok, no need for a "buffer" etc. same goes for a titanium striker or guide rod whatever ok.

If you want a competition pistol in a Glock, purchase their Glock Competition model, as it has proven it's self many times over. I do have night sights on one of my CCW carry pistols only. If you wish to know more about the GLOCK, send me a PM and I will get you the phone number to this gentleman ok.

 

[miestro_jerry]

I am waiting for the FBI's result on testing the imported "practice" ammo that has blown up G 21s in several law enforcement departments across the U.S. before I buy a G21 or actually another Glock.

Jerry

 

[2Bits]

Jerry I purchased a GLOCK MODEL 21-SF a few months ago, the only problem I have had with this pistol was to get the clip release to drop the magazine when using either button. It just takes a lot of work to break one in I was told and that seems to be the correct assumption for my model 21-SF model. I have put 1100 rounds through the pistol so far and never cleaned the pistol, until I had shot 400 rounds through it at both slow fire and rapid fire. No Jams or any problems, other than the button that releases the clip to get broke in enough to work. It works just fine now and I am glad I purchased this pistol. I use it in a cross draw holster when riding in a vehicle.

This pistol shoots very well and accurate off handed and also with two hands as well. Now from the rest at 15 yards or 45 feet, It will put all shots into a 2.5 inch group using Blazer ammo. I have not as yet shot the pistol at the 25 yard range yet. I hope to do that in my next outting but want to use my handloads and some match ammo, soon as I can find some of the ammo.

 

[miestro_jerry]

Tracer,

My brother has a G21C, he never had any problems, but when the Deputy Sergeant with his blown up Glock hit the news, as well as a few other police departments having the same thing happen to them around the country. I have to stop and think about the pistol. As that I don't have all of the information and no copies of the FBI notes, I am waiting.

I still shoot my other Glocks with brand name factory ammo and some of my reloads that are up to factory spec. I have never shot Blazer ammo in any of my weapons, Never had the need for disposable cartridges, I like reloading my own.

Jerry

 

[2Bits]

I hear you on the reloading my own segment of your post Jerry! This is why I wanted a reloading press that coud belt out a lot of ammo and change calibers quick. I oppted for the Hornady Lock N Load Press with auto case feed. I will also be glad when we get the auto bullet feeder hooked up made by Kiss. It is said to increase production some 15 to 20 percent.

 

[baydogs]

Does anyone have any experience with either the ambidextrous magazine release or the extended releases ?
I am left handed. I have full size Glock 21. My gunsmith ordered the Brownells ambidextrous magazine release for me and installed it. NEITHER of us liked how it felt or how difficult it was to push to release the magazine. He sent it back and is going to search for something different.
I see the extended releases that are available and wonder how difficult it is to release the magazine with my trigger finger on my left hand with one of these? (I would prefer to release the magazine normally with my thumb on my left hand.)
Does anyone have any real-life left handed experience with any of the magazine releases that work ?
Thanks

 

[m141a]

since my original post in this thread, I have purchased a G21sf, with ambi mag release and the piccy rail.
I too am lefty.
It is a Gen 3 gun.
the best thing I can tell you is use the factory mag release. STAY AWAY from the extended ones if you are lefty, they tend to dig into your finger.[IMO] If the mag release is digging into your hand shooting, simply remove it and file or grind a smoother contour into the polymer. I've done that with every Glock I own. Just rounding the edges on the rectangular button does a world of wonders.

 

[baydogs]

Thanks Chris -
Yeah, the ambi one **** near punched a hole in my left thumb trying to operate it and neither the gunsmith nor I liked the way it worked. So, he removed it and sent it back and we are both searching for another alternative. We haven't tried any of the extended (left side) releases yet.
You say - stick with the factory mag release. How are you operating it? With your trigger finger or your middle finger on you left hand? Or are you just switching hands and using your right thumb? That is what I have been doing (switching hands & using my thumb). But, of course, its a real slow maneuver.
Thanks for your response.

 

[m141a]

Middle finger of my left had, as i do with all autos.... even the Xd and Glock with the ambi's are just too big of a grip for me to get my thumb to the button.....so I just continue to do as I always have with the middle finge, such as with sig, colt, browning, ect.

The more you use the Glock the smoother it will get. try a small touch of silicone paste or white grease on the lever surface points too.

 

[baydogs]

Ok. I will look at what's available in extended mag releases and just get used to releasing it with my left middle finger. When I try pushing the factory mag release with the middle finger on my left hand, my hand is too large and I have to rotate the gun to the right in my hand to push it. Maybe with the larger one, it will give me more surface for my finger to find it without rotating the gun. When I hold it in my right hand, I have no problem reaching the factory mag release on the left side with my right thumb without changing my grip.
Thanks for your help - I will look at the extended mag releases that are available and try one.