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Hi, need help finding grips for my Ruger bisley, looking for something to help with recoil, I have the stock grips on now and they fit badly. Had a SBH years ago and I think I had stocks made by Harrets that filled in the back of the trigger guard and were alot more comfortable with heavy loads. I am just getting back into Handgun hunting after 20 years and reloading also. I shoot .357, .44 and .45.  Thanks, Phil Uruburu
 

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Phil,

Replacement grips for the Super Blackhawk normally fill that space behind the trigger guard but I've not seen a Bisley grip in that style. Supers have a reputation as knuckle busters. Are you having trouble with your knuckle being hit during recoil? If thats the case then you'll need someone to build a custom grip for you.

If the grips are just a poor match to your hand, some simple thinning out at the bottom and rounding of the edges at the front of the grip below the trigger guard should do the trick. Just lay the grip panel flat and file away at the bottom end. If you take away the taper that starts from the point just below the Ruger emblems and basically flatten the grip out that should help. Removing the square edges at the front of the grip also makes a huge difference. Just remove some material little by little and see what works.

After that you can turn a plain jane grip into quite a piece of work. On the factory rosewood, Minwax's mahoganoy stain really looks nice. Two coats followed by their Wipe On Poly urethane finish made a down right ugly set I had into a beatiful set of grips. Should of done some before and after photos.

Hope this helps
 

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MT, thanks. should have been something I could have figured out. Most of the recoil is felt at the web of my palm and index finger and you are correct, the stocks are rather sharp here. After about 40 -50 rounds it gets so that I have to quit. I'll start surgery on the grips this weekend. . As I said before  I had a SBH many years ago and don't rember recoil being a problem. However, my memory is probably getting as soft as my 59 year old hands.Thanks again, Phil
 

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Phil,

I too echo MT's observations about the Bisley grips.   In my experience, the Bisley grip is the one that most comfortably distributes felt recoil in the single action revolvers.   However, the contours of those factory grips leave much to be desired!

Fortunately, Ruger is most generous with the amount of wood on those factory grips, and usually they have some pretty decent wood as well!  That area immediately behind and underneath the trigger guard needs the first pruning.  Thin them out, and get rid of the boxcar effect, rounding out the leading edges on the grips here, as well as the thinning of the heel of the stocks as MT has outlined above.

With those Bisley grip frames, if they fit, then recoil isn't really an issue... even with very heavy loads.  My top pick for heavy single action sixguns!

Hope this helps!

God Bless,

Marshall



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Morning all -

I'd like to piggy-back on the Bisley grip question to find out how easy/difficult it is to fit a Bisley frame (frame only) to a NM Blackhawk?  I've seen a few pics of a blued Blackhawk with a SS Bisley grip frame and the look is striking.  I wasn't able to find the plain jane pic in question but I thought y'all would like to see a purdy flatop:

 

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Marshall, thanks for the reply. I am new to the site and have found it to contain a welth on info. I am going to start on the stocks this weekend. I had a SBH years ago and sold it. Always was intrigued by the Bisley and have heard nothing but good things about it. I am going to work thru the grips then start slugging the gun and will need some help when I get the results. I look forward to bringing up your site each night.
Thanks to All,
Phil

PS Alan, thanks for the pic. Bowen does the grip conversion but it aint cheap, check out his prices thru the links menu.
 

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Alan,

Fitting a frame is a chore for the professionals if you want it to look right. When adding the grip frame you might as well go with the Bisley hammer and trigger. They were made for each other, no pun intended. Of course the easy way to get a Bisley is.....to get a Bisley. It'll save you money. Barrels are cheap.
 

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Morning MT -

I posted a barrel question over at sixgunner and I'm still confused whether or not I can order a 4 5/8" barrel from Ruger and have a smith install it on a Bisley?  The CSR I spoke to said they would not install a 4 5/8" barrel (he alluded that they don't make 4 5/8" barrels to fit the bisley?)  I thought a Ruger barrel, was a barrel, was a barrel when it came to Blackhawk frames??

I may say the heck with it all and get a Ruger Old Army  :^)  That Marshall is putting ideas into my head faster than I can put money in my wallet!
 

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Alan,

I can't say why Ruger wouldn't install a 4 5/8ths barrel on a Bisley but I'm sure they have their reasons. If your set on that length its still cheaper to have the barrel cut than to convert to a Bisley grip frame.

Is Ruger still installing the 5 1/2 inch barrel on the Bisley? If so I'd go that route. The 5/8ths of an inch difference between the two is small compaired to the gunsmithing costs of the other routes.
 

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Alan,

Ruger has great customer service, but they won't sell you a barrel, hammer, trigger, hand, pawl or cylinder, as they say these have to be factory fitted!

Also, what they are telling you about the 4 5/8" barrel for your Bisley is that the barrel is not a standard factory offering, therefore it would constitute a custom gunsmithing service which their policy forbids... (don't ask me why).  In summary, if it doesn't come as a factory option, they won't install it at their factory service center!

However, barrels are available in all lengths and configurations from Brownells, Gunparts and Jack First for about &#3635.00 if my memory serves me correctly.

Brownell's Inc.          <a href="www.brownells.com" target='_blank'>www.brownells.com</a>
Jack First Gun Parts  <a href="www.1stingunparts.com" target='_blank'>www.1stingunparts.com</a>
Gun Parts Corp.        <a href="www.gunpartscorp.com" target='_blank'>www.gunpartscorp.com</a>

Also consider a take off barrel from one of the custom smiths.... they are often times brand new and very reasonable! Some as low as 20 bucks and with front sight!

David Clements   <a href="www.clementscustomguns.com" target='_blank'>www.clementscustomguns.com</a>
Gary Reeder       <a href="www.reedercutombuns.com" target='_blank'>www.reedercutombuns.com</a>
John Linebaugh   <a href="www.sixgunner.com/linebaugh/default.htm" target='_blank'>www.sixgunner.com/linebaugh/default.htm</a>
Hamilton Bowen  <a href="www.bowenclassicarms.com" target='_blank'>www.bowenclassicarms.com</a>

These should give you a place to start, and not worry about Ruger's protocall on non-standard modifications!

You'll like a 4 5/8" Bisley!

God Bless,

Marshall
 

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Gents - mucho thanks for the info.

When all is said and done, I will most likely own a Bisley 45 colt and have it made high and tight with a 4 5/8" barrel.  The balance and feel, in my hand, is superior to the Blackhawk standard grip.

I simply do not understand why Ruger hasn't responded to the obvious market demand for Bisleys' in various lengths and finishes.  

God Bless,

Alan
 

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Gentlemen, I finally got my rear end in gear and attacked the factory grips on my Bisley, feels GREAT. I havent shot it yet but the difference in the hand is really noticable. I had to do a little pruning of the metal at the top of the grip strap to kill a few sharp corners and it all looks fine. Also installed a max size cylinder base pin from Brownells and added a white line rear sight blade to help my tired old eyes. I have lapped out the cylinder throats so they are all .432" and am now ready to slug the barrel and get on to lapping. Some trigger work and a little engine turning on the hammer and trigger and I think I might be satisfied for a little while. Thanks for all the help, This is the best site on the web.
Phil Uruburu
 

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<html>I pickled this set. Sanded, soaked them in white stain, wiped them off and later sanded to the color I wanted. (Real bad pic, look kinda pink)<br><img src=http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=167587&a=1222042&p=37979660&Sequence=0&res=high></html>
 
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