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H&R 1871 Buffalo Classic

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#1 ·
Hi. I'm new here and would like some feedback on the H&R 1871 Buffalo Classic in 45-70 with the 32" barrel. I haven't bought one yet so just looking for some opinions. I'm retired so I can't afford a Sharps or Marlin so this is an alternative. I'd like to know what others think of hor strong the action is, will it handle reloads normally for the Marlin or Shaprs. Any opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
#3 ·
I don't own one, but on another site I visit frequently there are a good number of guys shooting them. They seem to think highly of them and good number of those people have taken quite a bit of game with them. From the info I read on there, they are pretty accurate and made well enough for the money. It's a no frills type of firearm, but effective. If I were in a position where I couldn't put a lot of money out for a gun I'd consider getting one of them. I can't see where you'd lose your investment in one. They'd be pretty easy to sell and get most of your money back. If you want to dabble with a 45-70 for a while, this is probably a reasonably good way to get into it. Maybe circumstances will change later and you could get something else if you wanted to. Just for hunting it would be fine.
 
#5 ·
The scope you're referring to costs more than the gun with a useable set of mounts. These scopes require really good rings/bases to work well. Most of the shooters using these scopes with decent results spent as much on the mounts as they did the scope. Now that you're talking about adding a scope and mounts to a Buffalo Classic, I'd have to change my opinion and advise you that this combo is not a bargain at all. You could buy the Marlin and simply add a decent aperture sight to the gun or even a decent scope and be way ahead. The way you plan on configuring the gun will cost you more than a Marlin with a scope. Take you time and do some more investigating on this. The 45-70 isn't the cheapest gun to shoot to begin with and if you're going to get into this at a reasonable price I don't think you're heading in the right direction. I'm not saying the Buffalo Classic isn't a good shooter, it's just not worth putting that kind of money into.
 
#6 ·
Some years back, I had a NEF Handi-rifle in 45-70. A while later I sent it to NEF to have them fit the 32" Buffalo Classic barrel and sights. It was fun in its way to shoot that rifle, and I liked the sights a lot. I ended up selling all my NEF items later on, though. I recall firing handloads at and above the Marlin data from my loading manuals in the NEF rifle. I also recall at least one of the barrels having a sufficiently short throat that I could not compress IMR4198 enough to try any higher with the 405 grain bullets. What I do not recall is whether it was the 22" barrel alone that was throated that way, the 32" alone, or both.:confused:
Sorry.
 
#11 ·
Lonewolf,

Check out the links below for sights, depends on whether you want hunting sights or target sights or something for both. I have the William FP-TK sight on my 45-120 Buffalo Classic (BC), have used the factory Williams WGRS and the Smith Long Range sights also, also have a 45-70 BC with a scope, the BC barrel comes drilled and tapped for a scope rail which the two rear holes are used for mounting sights. The BC comes on a faux case colored SB2 rifle frame, same as other high pressure chambered Handi-rifles which include factory chamberings of 270 Win and 500S&W, so it's good for any 45-70 load level, but due to recoil, most H&R 45-70 owners choose to shoot SAAMI loads or low-mid levergun loads.

FYI...Handi Peep and Firesights

Long Range sights for the Buffalo Classic
 
#12 ·
FYI, my experience with H & R since the Remington buy out has been terrible. There are some good ones that get through, but in my experience, finding one is iffy. There was a time when I was going to do all of my hunting with the Handy Rifles in various calibers. There were too many problems with the guns and I eventually gave up. There are a number of guys around who will say they own a lot of them and never had a problem. I wish that were my experience, but it was not.
 
#15 ·
I really like the H&R rifles. You'll need to do a trigger job but I do that on every gun I buy anyhow. No big deal. Mine is a .243
If /I had the money I wouldn't hesitate trying a Buffalo Classic H&R. It's all steel and wood. It's a beautiful rifle. It reeks of "classic". Get a raccoon skin cap and youre set to go.
Yea you can spend a lot more on other buffalo guns but why?
I wouldn't recommend buying a bunch of barrels unless youre prepared to put in the time require to set up each one.