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Hello from Scotland

I have never fired a hand gun, nor do they really "do" any thing for me (im a rifle kinda guy)
Which is probably just as well as ALL hand guns are "illegal" in Britain now.

How ever at a future point i intend to travel abroad to hunt pigs, my .444p will be at my side to sort these hairy chaps out.

Recently i was speaking to an Aussie working over here and decussion quickly turned to hunting and then to pigs. He had experience of them and had been "tree'd" on one occasion after missing the pig with his rifle, tripping, dropping the rifle and only just making it up a tree !

After several hours it left, looking all clear he started to climb down, only to be greeted by the same pig this time introducing several of his relations ! Finally after many hours he made it home. The moral of the tale is a handgun  as (back-up) would have solved the problem rather more quickly.

My question has to be firstly which calibre of handgun ?

Secondly what barrel length ? If important ?

As to type and model, im not really to bothered as it is only back up for such events as above.

Also when i say calibre, take in to account that would not be reloading simply buying factory ammo.

So which type of factory ammo would you advise ?

Any advice re-pigs and hand guns would be most welcome.

Regards Englander
 

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having never hunted boars but having friends that do, I'll only tell you what they use:

1.  Marlin .444p and a Redhawk .44mag 7.5"
2.  Marlin .444s and a Smith 686 .357mag 6"
3.  Winchester .444 Timber carbine and a blackhawk .45colt. 4 5/8"

My opinion is, that the .444 will do the job(heck, that's why I bought mine), and any of these handgun calibers will work as backup.
I have read articles about hunters using these "hunting cartridges" and responsibly harvesting game...  my $.02
 

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I've not hunted the ugly porkers either, but intend to remedy that shortly in South Corolina.
My idea is to use a Colt Anaconda in 45 Colt. I'm working on my accuracy out to 100 yards using a 300 grain Saeco GC'd SWC ahead of 20 grains of H110. I use the same load in my Rossie Winchester 92 Clone. I'm guessing that this combination would shoot through most hogs. I would not feel under gunned using my standard 45 Colt load of 9.5 grains of Unique and a 255 grain SWC, chasing the hogs. The 300 grain load just gives me a bit more insurance
I've shot 45 Colts for the past 25-30 years, while my buddies shot 44 Mags. The 45 Colt in the right handgun could do everything the 44 Mag will do without the loud muzzle blast, recoil.
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Englander,

Anything in the .44mag / .45 Colt class works very well.  I have even put a wounded hog down with a .40 S&W, this was a 200gr. bullet at about 900fps.

I put a 335gr. cast bullet from a .45Colt revolver through a hog - lengthwise.  

.357 and .41 mag are OK in my book, have carried a .357 on a few hog hunts but never had the chance to use it.  Worked fine on a couple of deer, though.

For factory ammo, we can get stuff that pretty well duplicates the cast bullet handloads that you read about here.  Federal make a 'CastCore' line of bullets that is basically an LBT-style bullet in .357, .41 mag, and .44 Mag.  Good cast and jacketed bullet ammo can be had from Buffalo Bore, Cor Bon, and probably some others.  The Winchester .44 mag load with a Nosler Partition bullet looks good also.

For the beginner, the .44 mag is a good choice because there is a lot of different ammo available, some loaded lightly (.44 special) so you can practice and get good with the gun before you go hunting.
 

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Hi, Englander:
  I'm not in hog country, but it's never too late to learn handguns. I had my firearm safety class over to the range tonight.  The Canadian government doesn't like guns and handguns in particular either, but we can still use them. The class ages are 11 to 64, ladies included. We worked all the way up from .22s to light 45 Auto & .44 Magnum.  It's easy to make noise, but it takes a lot of practise to hit. I understand black powder handguns are still legal over there, so get one and learn how to hit with it.

Bye
Jack
 

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I went on a pig hunt in January, I had my 444 Marlin with me but shot it with my Ruger Super Redhawk in 44 Mag. I used Federal 300 gr. cast core bullets for hunting. The pig droped in it tracks. My shot was about 25 to 30 yards. <!--emo&:D--><img src="http://beartoothbullets.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'><!--endemo--> (Shot placement is the key). Hope this helped.
 

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Many thanks for the advice. I personally would never consider a hand gun for hunting while i had a rifle at hand. But it could certinally be handy to have one for odd occasions. Also were you have "dangerous critters" , we have NO dangerous animals in Britain ,well except man !

Yes we can still get black powder handguns and muzzle loading flintlocks etc. I must admit one of these days i would love to fire a repro duelling pistol sounds fun !

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I'd pick the same handgun I carry daily, a 4 5/8" Blackhawk in .45 Colt, loaded with an ordinary 260 gr Keith @ maybe 950-1000 fps...and considering every sixgun I own is good for 100+ yard shots on most critters in my area, and 90% or more of the animals I shoot with a handgun drop dead in their tracks with one shot, why would anybody want to pack a rifle? Also the dangerous animals most likely to be encountered in my neck of the woods are those #### Rottweilers the neighbor lets roam around unattended in other people's pastures...sooner or later he might start wondering why his Rotts seem to disappear so frequently.
 

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I have hunted Russian boar a couple of times. Thay can get pretty big. The first time I used a 30-06. The second time I used my 45-70 with a 400gr Speer JSP. Both of these worked very well. On both occasions I carried my Ruger BH .45 Colt with 255gr cast bullets as a back up. Never needed the back up , the rifles got the job done.
 
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