I have owned several AKs over the years and enjoyed them. Cheap and fun to shoot. My latest two are the Saiga 308 with 16" barrel and the Saiga 12 ga with 22" barrel. These guns have the AK 100 series updates. The 308 is very accurate and will print cloverleafs with match reloads at 50 yards. The 12 gauge will print the Remington Slugger slugs into 1 and 1/2 inch and was sighted in perfectly at 50 yards. The 12 ga also has a light recoil. about 2/3 of a pump gun. I fired up about 100 slugs of various types in a couple of hours with only a slight ache in the shoulder. I can only go about 20 rds with the 870 before I am ready to put it dowm. I'm going to put on a recoil pad and a recoil buffer that reportedly cuts recoil of the Saiga in half. Dont overlook the Saigas,they are a blast to shoot, especially the 12 ga. BTW, EAA is no longer importing them but a new company named Russian American Armory will have a new shipment soon.