[Jack Monteith]

The RCMP is notorious for inventing new firearms regulations on the spot. While that black stock bit won't stand up in court, they won't pay your lawyer.

Bye
Jack

 

[firebird]

They make their own rules as they go along. Court can take a year or two and lots of your precious $$$$

 

[ClydeW]

Newbie here. If I order an AK kit, will it be complete except for the receiver? Also, if I order a "complete receiver" will it have everything I need? Not knowing much about the AK kits, its hard to tell if I'm getting everything I need with the kit, or if I need to order anythign extra other than the receiver. I'm pretty competent with tools and have no problem drilling holes in the receiver for assembly, but I don't want to get into dies for bending the receiver etc.

 

[ironhead7544]

There is a lot of info on the net. The kits come with various parts. Some have all of them and some are missing parts and barrels. You will have to add parts for 922r.

Take a look at some of the AK websites. Putting one together is not what I would call easy. Unless you want a particular type, it is probably best to buy one already completed.

 

[75210]

I have a wasr 10/63. Im building my first AR to take on long hikes mainly because Its lighter. I also want to point out, with out spending enough money to buy another rifle, its hard to get an optic on an ak that will hold zero after a cleaning
I used a side mounted quick detach rail. No matter how well sighted in at 50 yrds it always made a 14 inch group from a bench at 100 yards. The light weight high velocity 5.56 also looses energy faster, and therefore will penetrate fewer layers of sheetrock if you are using the rifle for home defense. Despite those three reasons I still love my ak, and would rather have one then an Ar. But I cant afford a $1000 Ak that has better accuracy then I am capable of at 100 yards. I can aford to buy a couple peice of ar 15 every month for the next 4 months. I dont like it, but I havent found a better option. Ak everyday comrade. The dolfing stock alone makes it better then the ar in my book. Is there a thread where I can debate ar calibers for my build?

 

[dmsbandit]

Excellent post. The AR guys are going to be all over this one!

You touched on "reliability" which is often the most overlooked / ignored point when fans of the AR debate fans of the AK. Often the focus in soley on accuracy of which the AR definitely wins but it is accomplished through tighter tolerances of mating parts making the AR more suseptable to dirt/debris.

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funny. every test I've seen with dirt and debris has the AR with it's sealed gas system, and not open operating rod like the AK, to be the more reliable gun. add in the dust cover on the AR and the AKs large open hole on the side of the receiver, and you give another way for dirt to get into the AK action.

A gas gun will always be more reliable than a piston gun because the piston/rod is in the open and susceptible to debris. it doesn't matter if it's a AR rifle or an AK. gas guns are more reliable. the AR got it's bad reputation because of penny pinching by the Defense dept on the ammo and not chrome plating the barrels.

 

[bsn]

DPMSBANDIT I have to strongly disagree. The AK has far looser clearances, they are over-gassed as built and the carrier/piston assembly has much more mass to force the bolt closed. Grit or lack of lubrication can cause an AR to malfunction to the point the forward bolt assist cant push the bolt forward. The AK design give you the option to push the bolt forward, pull it back or rock it to clear the jam, with a lot more force. The bolt design of the AK just has two lugs VS the multi lug of the AR. if AR bolt locks closed you have very little leverage with the charging handle and have to hope bumping the stock on the ground or wedging a screwdriver up the mag well will free it. In the unlikely event an AK locks shut (never had it happen) you can just whack the charge handle with a rock ECT. I have quite a few AK's and AR's and can attest the AK design wins in the reliability department.
The AK was deigned for an unskilled soldier who wasn't as likely to maintain or understand how his firearm worked. Cost was a huge factor and is pretty much a disposable design.
The DI AR is a far better rifle if given minimal attention and once broken in its very reliable and far more versital.
A piston AR is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist-I would argue that they are less reliable.

 

[dmsbandit]

DPMSBANDIT I have to strongly disagree. The AK has far looser clearances, they are over-gassed as built and the carrier/piston assembly has much more mass to force the bolt closed. Grit or lack of lubrication can cause an AR to malfunction to the point the forward bolt assist cant push the bolt forward. The AK design give you the option to push the bolt forward, pull it back or rock it to clear the jam, with a lot more force. The bolt design of the AK just has two lugs VS the multi lug of the AR. if AR bolt locks closed you have very little leverage with the charging handle and have to hope bumping the stock on the ground or wedging a screwdriver up the mag well will free it. In the unlikely event an AK locks shut (never had it happen) you can just whack the charge handle with a rock ECT. I have quite a few AK's and AR's and can attest the AK design wins in the reliability department.
The AK was deigned for an unskilled soldier who wasn't as likely to maintain or understand how his firearm worked. Cost was a huge factor and is pretty much a disposable design.
The DI AR is a far better rifle if given minimal attention and once broken in its very reliable and far more versital.
A piston AR is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist-I would argue that they are less reliable.

lots of videos out there showing AKs becoming single shot rifles while AR gas guns continue to fire when subjected to mud and other debris. the gas used to work the bolt on AR rifles actually blows dirt and mud out of the action during the firing process.

Look it up.

 

[bsn]

I am sure you can find videos showing AR's locking up while an AK chugs along too. As someone who has quite a few examples of both I can say without the shadow of a doubt the AK is more reliable in adverse conditions. I can say I have had a few factory fresh ARs that needed tweaking to function or be reliable-never had a problem with an AK design. I much prefer an AR and don't consider it unreliable but facts are facts.

 

[JTrapper73]

I had an AK a few years back but let it go. I switched over to AR's due to the modular capability and superior accuracy. I believe it was Larry Vickers who said the AK-47 was an axe and the AR-15 was a scalpel, both having strengths and weaknesses. He had extensive experience with both weapons. If someone handed me an AK in a bad situation I wouldn't hand it back though, lol.