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Many are asking about the surplus powders that I list data for on some of my email and forum responses.  I've posted links before, and the source is on our links page, but thought a thread dedicated to these propellents and their source would be useful to all.

The supplier for these powders, I've done business with for well over ten years.   His link is below:

Jeff Bartlett Reloaders

At this link you will find some truly outstanding buys on powders, surplus projectiles and brass.

I've listed some of my favorite and most useful of the powders he now has available.  These prices are valid on today's posting 01/08/2001.

WC872 (H870)        40.00/ 8#
WC852                  56.00/8#
WC846PD (BLC-2)   64.00/8#
WC820PD              48.00/8#
IMR4895PD            64.00/8#
#102 (AA#2)         48.00/6#
#105 (AA#5)         64.00/8#

Many of the powder designations you will recognize from some of my posts.   This powder, all of it is sure-fire and a boon to those of us who like to stretch our shooting dollars.

We get so many requests for this information that I thought it would be best to post it here.

Enjoy!

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    Thanks for the info. A penny saved is a penny earned. This site earns a lot of &#36&#36&#36...

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Conservative,

Our soon to be released Beartooth Bullets Loading Manual will have quite a selection of data using these powders as well as other conventional canister powders using our bullets.   Also Jeff usually includes some basic data with the powders that you order to provide a reference point for your load development.

Also, just submit a post for the specific info you are looking for on this forum, you'll get what you need!

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Newbie,

Of the surplus powders both of these are excellent for light to medium loads in either the .44 mag or .45 Colt.


#102 (AA#2)         48.00/6#
#105 (AA#5)         64.00/8#

Between the two, I like the #105 the best, it is a direct replacement for AA #5, and is one of the most versatile handgun powders you will find for medium intensity loads.   It is also my hands-down favorite for .45 ACP loads of all descriptions.

For LC loads of the 900-1100 fps range, this is the one, and it is priced right too!  Relatively clean burning, easy to ignite and very uniform in performance!


You can't go wrong with it!

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8x57mm. 200 gr Yugo bullets, CCI 200, IMR4895, Collet neck, no crimp, RP brass, and 3.160"
I looked at different load books for IMR4895 powder loads for the 8x57mm JS Mauser cartridge.

1) "Sierra" [newer than 1971]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps

2) "Sierra 50 th Anniversary" 1995: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 175 gr 48.1 gr 2600 fps

3) "Hornady Handbook" 1973: 150 gr 52.5 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 50.1 gr 2700 fps

4) "Hornady 5 th" 2000[ H4895]: 150 gr 50.5 gr 2800 fps 170 gr 47.9 gr 2600 fps

5) "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders volume 2" 1966 PO Ackley: 150 gr 54 gr 2900 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2700 fps

6) "Speer 7" 1966: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2452 fps

7) "Speer 8" 1970: 150 gr 54 gr 2864 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2704 fps

8) "Speer 9" 1974: 150 gr 48 gr 2849 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

9) "Speer 11" 1987: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

10) "Speer 12" 1994: 150 gr 48gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

11) "Speer 13" 1998: 150 gr 48 gr 2675 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2640 fps

12) "Lyman 40th" 1955: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps

13) "Lyman 41 st" 1957: 154 gr 48 gr 2776 fps 170 gr 46 gr 2600 fps 227 gr 45 gr 2350 fps

14) "Lyman 43 rd" 1964: 150 gr 54 gr 2920 fps 170 gr 51 gr 2695 fps 225 gr 49 gr 2410 fps

15) "Lyman 45th" 1970: 150 gr 51 gr* 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49 gr* 2672 fps compressed 225 gr 46 gr* 2341 fps compressed

16) "Lyman 47th" 1992: 150 gr 51+ gr 2824 fps compressed 170 gr 49+gr 2672 fps compressed

17) "Handloading" William Davis and the NRA 1981 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k
cup 170 gr 46 gr 2640 <50k cup

18) IMR catalog 1990 [current]: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup

19) "Modern Reloading" Richard Lee 1996: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup

20) "Hodgdon No. 27" 1998: 150 gr 36 gr 2310 37k cup 170 gr 33.5 gr 2145 37k cup

21) "My Turkish Mauser notebook" 2001: 200 gr 44 gr no sign of pressure, OAL=3.16", neck sized RP brass 200 gr 46 gr top hat primer [CCI 200] 200 gr 47 gr
1.5" at 100 yards 3 shot group [best] 200 gr 49 gr sticky bolt 200 gr 50gr bulge in case gets closer to web. I should not repeat this load. 200 gr 51 gr very sticky
bolt, primer pocket hole diameter increase is measurable. I should not repeat this load. "Most of this data is related to maximum loads and none are starting points.
These are not suggestions for others, only notes relating to my own handload results for this cartridge." It is your gun and your body. You have to take your own
risks. Clark

OAL: 44 gr 2.2"
45 gr 2.25" 46 gr 2.25" and top hat primer 47 gr 1.5" 48 gr 3.3" 49 gr >
4" and sticky bolt 50 gr >4" and case base bulge 51 gr 3" 52 gr 2.25"
Very sticky bolt

I reloaded: 46.25 gr >1.9" 46.50 gr 4" 46.75 gr 3.4" 47.00 gr 3" 47.25
gr 5" 47.50 gr 2.2" 47.75 gr 2.6" 48.00 gr 4.3"
 

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I obtained some H-108 Surplus powder many years ago from one of the Advertisers in Shotgun News, though I don't remember who it was. It is just a tad faster than H110 and it works great in 44 Special/ 45 Colt. At one time it was also available from Hodgdon too, maybe they still have some of it floating around in a wharehouse.
 
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