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I was wondering what are the best references to use when applying for your pistol permit I live in NYState : Police officers, Professionals, Business Persons, What about a Family Member that already has a pistol permit? Should/can you use them?
What about my best friend of 30 years, who also has his permit , but lives in California? Any help, or suggestions would be very helpful.:D
 

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If I'm not mistaken, you can't use any LEO's for references nor any family members. I'm not sure about a residency requirement for references.

I got my permit back in '87 so some things may have changed.

Your best bet is to verify what is allowed by contacting your county pistol permit clerk.

Get the current info from the horse's mouth.

Make sure your references are responsible enough to fill out their questionaire in a timely and responsible manner also. The best reference in the world doesn't mean much if they take forever to send it back to the clerk's office.


http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/new+york

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Depends

How old are you? Clergy, Scout Master, teacher...think of people that have known you for the most time that have a squeeky clean background. Professional clubs or organizations: Elks, VFW members......

I got mine in 1974 so like the others said, times have changed. Glad I am in Alaska now and away from Schulmer and Hillary!:D
 

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I applied for my permit in 1989. I used my neighbors and friends as references. None of them were active in any civics role. Certainly none of them were LEO's or "connected" in any way. I seem to recall that the references must reside within my county. The Detective that interviewed them for my permit asked them how long they have known me and whether or not I abuse drugs/alcohol and if I am a trustworthy nonviolent type. Not much more than that.

In most NYS jurisdictions (except NYC of course) getting your pistol permit is not difficult just a bit inconvenient, a little expensive too.

You definitely should call your county pistol permit office. They are usually more than willing to help. Funny, I find the people employed in the pistol permit office freindlier than any other gov't employees i've encountered.

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How is this for gun control? In Niagara County, the Sheriff just announced that they had stopped performing the background checks for pistol permits because they don't have the budget for it. They stopped doing them in October! The Sheriff said this is going to remain in affect for the foreseeable future. Apparently Niagara County residents will not be able to exercize their 2nd amendment rights because the local Sheriff can't afford to let them. :(
 

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That's pretty ridiculous of the Sheriff as I had to pay about 50 bucks for fingerprinting and a supposed FBI check. Why doesn't the Sheriff simply call the National Instant check and run permit applicants names through it in the interum?

Methinks the Sheriff has his own agenda and the excuse of "not enough money" is the ruse for it.

This is the problem with "May Issue". In a "Shall Issue" state, he would be required to show cause or issue a permit, period.

We had a temporary or substitute judge down here in Putnam about the time I went for my permit simply turning every application down as a matter of course. I waited until the regular judge came back before applying.

This is what happens when we let bureacrats dictate our freedoms.

The latest is the new County Clerk pushing for a renewal permit "To keep his records current". Yeah right. He really means "to find another source of revenue".


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The interesting part is the current Sheriff has been serving in that capacity for at least 10 years and Niagara County was known during that period of time to be pistol permit freindly. You could get a permit much quicker in Niagara County than neighboring Erie County. The fees were lower. And Niagara County didn't list restrictions on their permits. I don't know if you are aware but New York counties are free to restrict their permits to hunting and target use or home use only or some such thing. Each county sets its own fee schedules too. I paid $65 for the background check and an extra $15 for the fingerprints and I got my permit within a couple years of when you did. Niagara County was charging the same $65 but with no extra charge. (again, this was in '89)

Niagara County has a pretty firm Republican base. I personally think the Sheriff is using the gun owners of his county to put pressure on the county legislature to increase his budget. You could be right though, he may be finally showing his true colors. Pretty slimy whatever his intentions.

You are spot-on though, in our state a pistol permit is treated like a priveledge, not a right.

I moved out of Buffalo/Niagara Falls and into a small town in the Genesee valley recently. There doesn't seem to be the BS out here.
 

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Years ago when I lived in NY, Wayne county, I made the mistake of carrying when I went to see an uncle in Yonkers. Revolver sitting openly on my truck seat, got stopped for a traffic violation. Evidently, I was in the NYC zone or something, because it sure upset those folks. It took another uncle who was District Attorney for Monroe County at the time to keep me out of jail.
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Heres an e-mail notice from NYSRPA legislative director:


My Groups | NYSRPA-alert Main Page



The New Gun Week reports that the Niagara Co. Sheriff Tom Beilein is holding up processing applications for pistol licenses. In 1/1/03 issue of
the Buffalo News Sheriff Beilien attributes the indefinite hold on the processing of applications due to staff and budget cuts.

County residents should contact their local legislature in an effort to motivate the Sheriff to move the application process along again. Here is the contact list for the Niagara legislature:

1st District, Daniel Mocniak
3041 East Falls Street
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 14303
Phone: 716-282-3891
Email: [email protected]

2nd District, Renae Kimble
3302 Hyde Park Boulevard
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 14305
Phone: 716-282-1618

3rd District, Samuel P. Granieri
2502 Niagara Street
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 14303
Phone: 716-284-8505
Email: [email protected]

4th District, Dennis F. Virtuoso
2703 Independence Avenue
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 14301
Phone: 716-284-1582

5th District, Sean J. O'Connor
1210 Brandi Drive
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 14304
Phone: 716-298-5179

6th District, Danny W. Sklarski
2119 Tuscarora Road
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 14304
Phone: 716-297-7982

7th District, Gerald K. Farnham
5460 Hinman Road
Lockport, N.Y. 14094
Phone: 716-433-0703

8th District, William L. Ross
6761 Walmore Road
Niagara Falls, N.Y. 14304
Phone: 716-731-5949

9th District, William M. Davignon
31 Stenzil Street
North Tonawanda, N.Y. 14120
Phone: 716-694-0582
Email: [email protected]

10th District, Peter E. Smolinski
449 Robert Drive
North Tonawanda, N.Y. 14120
Phone: 716-695-1873

11th District, Malcolm A. Needler
34 Cramer Street, Apt. 3
North Tonawanda, N.Y. 14120
Phone: 716-694-8332
Email: [email protected]

12th District, Lee Simonson
P.O. Box 527
Lewiston, N.Y. 14092
Phone: 716-754-8414
Fax: 716-754-9210
Email: [email protected]

13th District, Clyde L. Burmaster
2512 Parker Road
Ransomville, N.Y. 14131
Phone: 716-791-3111
Email:[email protected]y.com

14th District, Kyle R. Andrews
4810 Wilson-Burt Road
Wilson, N.Y. 14172
Phone: 716-751-3854

15th District, Harry J. Apolito
48 Woodbury Drive
Lockport, N.Y. 14094
Phone: 716-434-5144
Email: [email protected]

16th District, John W. Cole
12 Cleveland Place
Lockport, N.Y. 14094
Phone: 716-439-5770
Email: [email protected]

17th District, Bradley E. Erck
6800 Lilac Drive #B
Lockport, N.Y. 14094
Phone: 716-433-7768
Email: [email protected]

18th District, James W. Ward
5976 McKee Road
Newfane, N.Y. 14108
Phone: 716-778-8390

19th District, Gerald E. Meal
7617 Chestnut Ridge Road
Lockport, N.Y. 14094
Phone: 716-434-1133
Email: [email protected]



Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
[email protected]
http://www.nysrpa.org
http://www.rpa-pac.org

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