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I would like to have something like the Remington 5R or Ruger Long Range Target, or Savage 110 LR Hunter for that matter.

Does anyone actually make a heavy barrel 33 Winnie?
 

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Why play around with toys?

What is a little .338 WM capable of? Why not use a man's rifle against those body-armoured, big hearted beasts roaming the midland prairies:

Truvelo near Pretoria also supplies the world's militaries and long range civilian shooters with little .338 Lapuas (and can you believe it, even 7.62x51, .300 Win Mag, .50 Brownings) but this is becoming the flavour of the day - a 20mm shown by a local user.

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What is a little .338 WM capable of? Why not use a man's rifle against those body-armoured, big hearted beasts roaming the midland prairies:

Truvelo near Pretoria also supplies the world's militaries and long range civilian shooters with little .338 Lapuas (and can you believe it, even 7.62x51, .300 Win Mag, .50 Brownings) but this is becoming the flavour of the day - a 20mm shown by a local user.

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It isn't technically for me. I'm asking for a cousin of mine. I've already decided my next long gun will be a .375 H&H, .416 Rigby, or .458 Lott. I've decided against the Ruger flavors. I want one of those nostalgic classics.
 

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Of course I know where your heart is regarding a big bore... :) And you went the proper way - it should not only be about the steak - there is so much more in the sizzle.

:) Show the aspiring long distance shooter the options... :D
 

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Not a real Savage fan but they're Lapua has done pretty well. I have a brother who puts together 338 Edge. Watching some of his long range shooting ( out to 1900 yards) it's scary accurate with 300 grain accubond LR and Bergers. Pretty spendy rifles though. He builds them right though.
 

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Not a real Savage fan but they're Lapua has done pretty well. I have a brother who puts together 338 Edge. Watching some of his long range shooting ( out to 1900 yards) it's scary accurate with 300 grain accubond LR and Bergers. Pretty spendy rifles though. He builds them right though.
The Edge is a .300 RUM necked up to .338. For some reason, Remington shortened the case on the .338 RUM. Yet the 7mm, .300, and .375 all have the same case.

I know you could build a rifle. I was asking about a factory built rifle. Heavy barrel .338 Win Mag.
 

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338 Win Mag is a great cartridge, knowing what I know now I would have gone with that over the 300 Win Mag in my first big game hunting rifle. In the meantime I have settled on the 35 Whelen Ackley improved and haven't had to look back.
 

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338 Win Mag is a great cartridge, knowing what I know now I would have gone with that over the 300 Win Mag in my first big game hunting rifle. In the meantime I have settled on the 35 Whelen Ackley improved and haven't had to look back.
Indeed. If I had ran across my .338 I used to have (like I did with my .300), I would have surely went for it. I just don't know where shes at now 😞
 

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Only good thing about 338 mag is you can neck down 338 case for 30-338mag and I have two of them.
No offense sir, but that don't make NO sense! That would basically be a .308 Norma. A .338-300WM would give you a few more fps.
 

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No offense sir, but that don't make NO sense! That would basically be a .308 Norma. A .338-300WM would give you a few more fps.
Fred Huntington (RCBS) is first one to build 30-338mag. You can neck up 264 mag or 7mag brass. Rem chamber 40x in 30-338mag. I build 300mag and nephew has that rifle. I build 338mag, sold that to elk hunter in Wy. I build 300 Wby, sold that to friend.

At one time I send rifle out to get rebored chamber 30-338mag instead like you he chamber it for 308 Norma. If I wanted 308 Norma I'd have one build.

I've been shooting 30-338mag, 34 yrs. I think had Huntington not neck up 338mag, Rem would of use it for some type 300 mag.
 

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No offense sir, but that don't make NO sense! That would basically be a .308 Norma. A .338-300WM would give you a few more fps.
Fred Huntington (RCBS) is first one to build 30-338mag. You can neck up 264 mag or 7mag brass. Rem chamber 40x in 30-338mag. I build 300mag and nephew has that rifle. I build 338mag, sold that to elk hunter in Wy. I build 300 Wby, sold that to friend.

At one time I send rifle out to get rebored chamber 30-338mag instead like you he chamber it for 308 Norma. If I wanted 308 Norma I'd have one build.

I've been shooting 30-338mag, 34 yrs. I think had Huntington not neck up 338mag, Rem would of use it for some type 300 mag.
I was looking at it backwards. Blame dyslexia. Sorry sir


....but I still don't understand why you do it? The .300 Win Mag hold more powder. The short neck is a NON-ISSUE like old farts try to tell you. It has won piles of 1000 yrd matches, took out tons of terrorists, and been laying der in the shade since 1963.

In the picture: .308 Norma, .300 WM, .338 WM
 

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Uhhmm, the 338, 264WinMag and 7mm RemMag are the same case (86, 82 and 84 grains of water repectively) 300 Norma is 100, 300 WinMag is only 89, 300RUM is 110, 300 Wby is 99, 30 Newton is 88.

So a 30x338 would probably something like 85. Essentially a 300 H&H.

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Uhhmm, the 338, 264WinMag and 7mm RemMag are the same case (86, 82 and 84 grains of water repectively) 300 Norma is 100, 300 WinMag is only 89, 300RUM is 110, 300 Wby is 99, 30 Newton is 88.

So a 30x338 would probably something like 85. Essentially a 300 H&H.

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Exactly what I was saying
 

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I am currently in the process of doing this. 338 Win Mag 28" heavy barrel 1 -10 twist .950 muzzle 3/4-24 thd, 3.545 coal in Accumag magazine (3.715) 250 gr max. Rem 700 trued action, jewell hvr trigger, ptg bolt, Burris xtr 34mm tube scope, badger usmc rings, near mfg base. Stock and bipod have not been chosen but probably Choate and Atlas super cal. Done should weigh about 20 lb... I have a nice supply of adg / Sig 300 wm brass to form into 338. Custom reamer with match grade dimensions. If I can push it safely to 2700 feet per second with that length of barrel, I should stay supersonic to 1400 yards
 

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I do not believe there are many heavy barrel variants on offer currently in 338WM. I have 3, but none are heavy barreled.
You could simply rebarrel a Rem 700 with a heavy Bartlein in a Sendero. This is what I have built my rifles on.
Other than that, I think they’re few and far between.

Cheers.
 

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Rings came this weekend. Got 2 sets of badger usmc 34mm to get 2- 6 screw caps. That particular combo is not a catalog item and I could have gotten them in aluminum but I wanted the weight of steel. Rings weigh almost a pound which brings it up to without barrel and stock about six and a half pounds... just for the action, rings, and the scope
 

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It isn't technically for me. I'm asking for a cousin of mine. I've already decided my next long gun will be a .375 H&H, .416 Rigby, or .458 Lott. I've decided against the Ruger flavors. I want one of those nostalgic classics.
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