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I have a question about using lead bullets. I am new to this fourm and have always used jacketed bullets.  It never crossed my mind to use lead bullets. I am learning alot on this web site. My question is: Can I shoot Beartooth bullets in my daughters 30-30 or my 308 win without leading the barrel? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question , but I  really dont know that much about lead bullets.  I never have seen anyone in the field use then except muzzle loaders. I have reloaded for 20 years using jacketed bullets and this is like a whole new area to me.
 

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Big Buck,

Welcome to "the other half" of the handloading and shooting game.

Before you do anything, I suggest wholeheartedly, that you aquire Marshall's cast bullet guide. It has a ton of info in it, from A to Z. It will greatly help you in achieving the best performance with cast bullets and LBT styles in particular. You can read it at your own leisure and any additional particular questions you might have afterward, just ask away here. This is a vast subject and it would be easier for you to aquire a basic understanding first. You're about to have a lot of fun!

Head over to the home page on this site and click on the "Beartooth Bullets Technical Manual" near the bottom of the Page.




Best Regards and Welcome!



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(Edited by Contender at 1:48 pm on Mar. 24, 2001)


(Edited by Contender at 1:51 pm on Mar. 24, 2001)
 

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Big Buck,

I think that once you "get into" cast loads in .30-30 and/or .308, you will realize the full versatility these cartridges possess. You can use a wide range of bullet designs to serve a variety of functions from ultralight plinkers to full-power hunting loads.

If I may presume upon you, I would suggest starting with the .30-30. It is a natural for cast loads and will be a great beginner round for you to work with.
 

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Thanks Contender and Bill. I just ordered Marshall's cast bullet guide today. This is going to be fun. I cant wait to see the looks on the faces of my shooting friends when they see me with lead cast bullets and a 30-30 , 308 and 444 Marlin.  They are all 7mm , 300 mag and 338 mag folks with top of the line bolt guns and scopes that are big enough to look at Orion with. To think of a guy who shoots a non Magnun lever action with cast loads ;-)
 

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Big Buck,

Your comment  " I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of my shooting friends when they see me with lead cast bullets and a 30-30 , 308 and 444 Marlin.  They are all 7mm , 300 mag and 338 mag folks with top of the line bolt guns and scopes that are big enough to look at Orion with"  reminded me of a story by Frank Marshall entitled "Speaking Frankly on the .30-30 - Choosing The Optimum Cast Bullet Boosts .30-30 For Big Game.  This appeared in the Sept.-Oct. 1981 issue
of the FOULING SHOT which was the CAST BULLET ASSOCIATION's newsletter at that time.

In part, Frank said, “On a crisp November morning, I enjoy a leisurely browse up through happy hollow . My companion is likely to be my shiny old pre 1940 Mod. 94 .30-30 Carbine and my old mills belt full of prime cast loads.  As you know, today’s armament in most eastern hunting camps is high powered, heavy at both ends and hot in the middle, under your eye balls, and overburdened with glass of wondrous power; most useful for moon gazing or bird watching in the off season.  In our camp, young aspirants will occasionally offer me the loan of their spare scoped fussil, rather than turn me loose in the wild woods only “half ready” with cast loads, in a .30-30 at that which shows them I never read gun books.  Naturally I encourage this controversy .  It always makes the puddin’ sweeter when my compadres come in popped and plodin down the long hollow while I’m patiently waiting for assistance along the old jeep trail with three hunter loads of venison cooling out and no meat spoiled by a clean shot from a .30-30 cast bullet.”

He goes on to say that  “I have known for about 50 winters that that a proper cast load from a .30-30 carbine will put more deer down in the woodsy east than most of the over rated .30 caliber hotshots.“  Frank liked a 180-190 gr. flat nosed cast bullet for superior penetration  over 34 grs. of 4350 or WW760 for about 1900 f.p.s. in a 20” barrel. His alloy was 33% plumbers lead and 67% Linotype for “top performance at 1900+ f.p.s. and still giving adequate expansion coupled with punch for the going away shots.”

Frank Marshall passed away several years ago but his “Speaking Frankly” columns in the FOULING SHOT will last indefinitely. He was also a contributing editor for the American Rifleman and a cast bullet shooter extraordinaire.

John
 

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John,

There are a couple of Frank's articles in the front of the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. Always enjoyed re-reading them.

Thanks for the treat.


Regards,


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