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i would appreciate any opinions on which would be the better scope to buy. i am looking at a leupold 6.5-20 vx-3 or a zeiss conquest of similar power. any help would be appreciated. cheers.
 

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I've been watching to see if you got any bites on this thread. Folks can be pretty brand sensitive and not always rational.
I have both brands mentioned although they are lower powered. Leupold are tough with decent glass and my Zeiss beats them in low light giving me a few more usable minutes to hunt.
Ironically both my 6.5X20 and my 5X20 are Nikon Monarchs that serve me well. One is on a Savage Model 14 in .223 and the other is on the same rifle in 204 Ruger. A couple of tuned up varmint rifles (target crowns) that are accurate as can be with my handloads. Good scopes that deliver that much magnification sure are a pleasure to use.
Best wishes and good luck with your choice. You can't go wrong with either.
 

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thanks for the comeback.ive heard the conquest was better optically.both scopes are made in the u.s.so should be good.any down side to either --cheers greg
 

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I agree Zeiss is probably better glass, but that is reflected in the price tag as well. For me, the quality of the Leupolds is such that I can't justify paying more for a Zeiss. Not to mention that Leupold warranty and customer service are unbeatable.
 

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For hunting, I prefer the 44mm Zeiss to the 40mm Leupold just for light gathering.
I know Big L makes the 50 mm but that usually requires taller mounts. I like the 44mm, and have more confidence in the Zeiss with the 44mm. This revelation came after taking both scoped rifles to the stand with me. My 40mm Leupold 4.5-14 which I like, was almost non-usable right before dark, I tried my 4.5-14- 44mm Zeiss and could still see fine. So I figured it gave me another 15-20 minutes of prime hunting time. That's enough for me to change.
But they are both good scopes.
 

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Wont go wrong with either. If you want the best optics, go with the zeiss. I have both and perfer the zeiss. Bushnel elites and nikon monarchs are also very fine scopes.
 

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Recenty I've purchased two of the discontinued Nitrex by Weaver TR2 scopes from www.natchezss.com One is a 4-20x50 SF with pullup turrets and after rebate and shipping charge, the final cost was $279. Don't let the low price fool you, it had a Retail price of about $670 at one time. Note it is a Nitrex by Weaver and basically same scope in Weaver line is a Super Slam model that retails for over $800. Japanese optics in the TR2 is outstanding....I've had both Leupold and Zeiss Conquest owners view thru my scope and critique it. General consensus was the Nitrex glass was just as clear and bright as their scopes, at all powers, and had positive comments about other features of the scope.

You might want to give the Nitrex scope at Natchez Shooters Supplies a look. Its a heck of a scope for a heck of a price.
 

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Although I don't currently have any Zeiss sporting optics the optics made by Leopold, Nikon and Bushnell with 30mm tubes seem too be outstanding. Noticed the light transmission through the larger tubes contribute to better dawn/dusk performance. Don't know what hunting regs are where your located but in my state its 1/2 hour before sunrise and 1/2 hour after sunset. You can pust the envelop only so much before running afoul the regulations. Consiquently I don't have much need for optics that allow that last few minutes of hunting before darkness.
 

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I have both and the zeiss is the clearer one of the two as seen through my eyes. Also the paralax adjustment is much more positive on the zeiss.
 

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Both are very good. My Leupold is a great scope. I think Zeiss is better glass though.
 

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I don't have any Zeiss scopes but do own a bakers dozen of Leupold rifle scopes. Recently I jumped ship to the Bushnell Tactical scopes for my varmint rifles. I saved a bunch of money to the tune of over $600 dollars verses Leupold scope with the same tidbits.;) :cool:
 

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I don't have any Zeiss scopes but do own a bakers dozen of Leupold rifle scopes. Recently I jumped ship to the Bushnell Tactical scopes for my varmint rifles. I saved a bunch of money to the tune of over $600 dollars verses Leupold scope with the same tidbits.;) :cool:
I'm curious as to which series Bushnell scope you chose, 3200, 4200, 6500 ?
Thanks.
 

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Recenty I've purchased two of the discontinued Nitrex by Weaver TR2 scopes from www.natchezss.com One is a 4-20x50 SF with pullup turrets and after rebate and shipping charge, the final cost was $279. Don't let the low price fool you, it had a Retail price of about $670 at one time. Note it is a Nitrex by Weaver and basically same scope in Weaver line is a Super Slam model that retails for over $800. Japanese optics in the TR2 is outstanding....I've had both Leupold and Zeiss Conquest owners view thru my scope and critique it. General consensus was the Nitrex glass was just as clear and bright as their scopes, at all powers, and had positive comments about other features of the scope.

You might want to give the Nitrex scope at Natchez Shooters Supplies a look. Its a heck of a scope for a heck of a price.
took stock of your advice and had a look at a 3-15x50 weaver tactical.was really impressed. digging a bit deeper from a person i know that repairs scopes,i was informed they use wire c/hairs that have in his opinion the best retention set up,strong tube that is bullet proof. a big improvement on the old plastic skin lens of years ago. just goes to show that if you ask on this forum, you do get some really good feed back from people.you cant beat personal opinions p.s. i did buy a 3200 elite once and wasnt impressed with the heap of parrallax error,but then again it was cheap.thanks to all that replied, as it was all very informative feedback.
 

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I've looked through a couple Zeiss scopes, and they are better for clarity, and light transmission than any other scope I've ever seen.

On the other hand, in most states you can't legally use that difference before there is any difference in making a shot.

Walking out of the woods last year at dusk, I heard a shot go off not too far off. When I got to my truck a few minutes later, there was a green Ford SUV parked betweem my truck and another vehicle. We were the only two on that section of road for a good mile either way. After determining that my rifle had not been fired, and getting my liscense checked, the friendly warden walked down the road to the other vehicle, confiscated the deer with a single hole in it, and ticketed the shooter. It was twenty minutes past shooting time, and not sure what scope he had, but it must've been a good one.
 

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I purchased 4 of the Bushnell 3200 series Tactical scopes! :)
I own several of the 3200 series of scopes (none tactical). I've found them to be a very good value/$$.
 

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Leupold or Zeiss

I have plenty of experience with both scopes, and recently shot in a rifle with a friend's Bushnell 6500. I was pleasantly surprised at how good the Bushnell was, until I found out he paid more than what the Leupold would have cost. If price is no object, I'd buy the Zeiss Diavari as I think it is unbeatable. If price matters, the quality of a Leupold won't ever let you down and it is much more affordable than the Zeiss Diavari. I prefer the Leupold to the Conquest but admit that the quality is very close. Leupold stands behind their product better than any company I know. If price were an issue, and I could buy the Bushnell 6500 for $200 cheaper than the Leupold or the Conquest, that's where my money would go. For a long time, Bushnell made an excellent product at a very affordable price. The 6500 is their top-of-the-line and it seems priced to compete with the higher dollar scopes.:)
 

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If you ever fall on your scope, or wreck it in any way, you will save BIG TIME with leupold. As mentioned earlier, most places are 30 minutes before sunrise and 30 minutes after sunset, anything shot after that is illegal in most areas. With my vxII 3-9x40 i can see a solid 15 minutes after legal light, my uncle has a vxIII 3.5-10x50mm scope that you can hunt with all night, i would guess the ziess's extra light is due in part to the extra 4mm.

I use my scope in the hashest conditions of the lower 48, in the PNW rainforest, it holds up well, thats what it was designed for.
 
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