The 8x64 is kinda close to the 300 win. Brenneke ammo is getting not quite 2800 fps with a 196 grain bullet. I'm getting not quite 3000 fps with a speer 170 grain bullet. The best way to think of an 8x64 is an 8x280Rem. The shoulder is about .050 inch forward of a 30-06 and that's why I use 280 brass for my reloads. If you use a barrel that is chambered for 8x57 you will have to set it back about .050 to .060 to get everything to clean up. I must say that the more I use it the more I like it.
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