[Walt45]

Michigan Man Sues Public University For Not Allowing Open-Carry on Campus | TheBlaze.com

Open-carry advocate sues University of Michigan over campus gun ban

Its an interesting read. It says they allow guns under "extraordinary circumstances". I wonder if 'extraordinary circumstances' is before, during, or after a rape on these ultra safe campuses .

 

[Cheezywan]

I think he has a case. We live in "extraordinary times", do we not?

Cheezywan

 

[nvshooter]

I think he has a case. We live in "extraordinary times," do we not?

If I am correct, "May you live in interesting times" is an old Mexican curse. I long for the times when there was nothing extraordinary nor interesting going on...

 

[MusgraveMan]

Chinese in fact

Hughe Knatchbull-Hugessen, the British Ambassador to China in 1936 and 1937 mentioned it first as subsequently did Frederic René Coudert, who said it was the principal Chinese curse heaped upon an enemy.

Beautifully understated and so well understood by the British mind.

 

[Cheezywan]

If I am correct, "May you live in interesting times" is an old Mexican curse. I long for the times when there was nothing extraordinary nor interesting going on...

I have a vague similar memory nvs. I might have to look that up sometime. I wonder more about why and when the memory happened.

Cheezywan

 

[JBelk]

My thought is that everything is the same but for time and scale. We stir the stew pot to distribute heat. Everytime somebody stirs the pot of society, it calms things down some but overall, the heat is increased another notch. As the heat rises, the pot has to be stirred more often to keep the stew from burning and sticking, but each time the pot is stirred the ambient heat goes up. When the pot eventually boils over, it puts out most of the fire for a time, but not all of it. The process starts all over yet again.

"Interesting times" are usually near the boiling point. The procrastination of definitive action causes war.

 

[Webley]

Walt45,

I am 100% Pro-Second Amendment, but gun owners need to have a bit of discretion about carrying guns. I train handgun students who are concealed carry folks and I support concealed carry at all universities. I am leery of "Open Carry" because I see gun owners flouting open carry making it an "In your face" demonstration that alarms non-gun owning voting citizens.

I would not want to see folks strutting over my old alma mater with gunbelts, six guns, Glocks, and any other firearms OPENLY Carried. There are no absolute rights in a Republic. I think gun owners will win their battle for rights with proper discretion rather than the disgusting group in Texas a while back strutting around a restaurant with slung ARs, shotguns and hunting rifles as seen on Fox News because of Open Carry RIGHTS!

I have seen some legal open carry folks hereabouts and it alarmed me because the "Carrier" in a Walmart obviously NEVER was trained in handgun retention. She was fiddling about her purse for a credit card at checkout while her Colt Cobra was freely accessible to me or any other person looking to snatch a handgun!

Webley

 

[Walt45]

Walt45,

I am 100% Pro-Second Amendment, but gun owners need to have a bit of discretion about carrying guns. I train handgun students who are concealed carry folks and I support concealed carry at all universities. I am leery of "Open Carry" because I see gun owners flouting open carry making it an "In your face" demonstration that alarms non-gun owning voting citizens.

I would not want to see folks strutting over my old alma mater with gunbelts, six guns, Glocks, and any other firearms OPENLY Carried. There are no absolute rights in a Republic. I think gun owners will win their battle for rights with proper discretion rather than the disgusting group in Texas a while back strutting around a restaurant with slung ARs, shotguns and hunting rifles as seen on Fox News because of Open Carry RIGHTS!

I have seen some legal open carry folks hereabouts and it alarmed me because the "Carrier" in a Walmart obviously NEVER was trained in handgun retention. She was fiddling about her purse for a credit card at checkout while her Colt Cobra was freely accessible to me or any other person looking to snatch a handgun!

Webley

I agree. Concealed carry is far more useful and important for personal protection these days (Gray Man). However I respectfully disagree on "no absolute rights" part. "Shall not be infringed" is definite and absolute. But this is small potatoes in a big farm.

 

[Webley]

Walt45,

We agree. Look how the "shall not be infringed" business stacks up today in 2015? The Heller Decision by the U.S. Supreme Court lets the door open for gun controls, even though the decision was hailed as a 2nd Amendment victory. Washington D.C. lost in Heller, but still imposes RESTRICTIVE gun laws on residents! Do D.C. residents have "definite and absolute" gun rights today?

I oppose Open Carry because I have seen how open carry merely permits prohibited persons to "grab and snatch" guns from carriers who are not on full alert while carrying openly. The negative side is some gun owners openly carry to "gross out" non-gun owning citizens for various reasons. Where in the USA today are gun rights "definite and absolute?" I will sell the farm tomorrow and move to a place where I can own full auto guns, and a silencer without a $200 Treasury Department Stamp and a Form 4.

Webley