They just kick that way. It's normal. You ought to shoot a lever gun in 45-70. You can try some reloads with lighter bullets or try some 44 special loads in it.

 

Yeah, you beat me to the punch. My 1894P will thump you ... but the 1895G will rattle your teeth.

Honestly, I needed an extended LOP for both carbines/guide guns ... so I added a LimbSafer to both. I've had rotator cuff surgery and I'm getting older, well into my 60s, I'm no longer into self flagellation or torture ... the 1895G is 45-70 with a 405 grain SWC will bruise you if you are no careful.

Makes the 44 seem like a 22.

I do love both calibers though and I always advise new 44 Mag 1894 owners to load for rifle/carbine and not pistol.

 

Yeah. They do that. First time I fired my Marlin 1894 in .45 colt with 300 grain handloads, think I left snot all over the buttstock.....

If primers are 'black' then make sure the firing pin isn't piercing them. That problem won't heal itself. What does it do with store-bought ammo?

 

Be concerned about the blackened primers. Find out why. Where is the smoke coming from? Sometimes it takes magnification to see the hole, crack or split, but find it and let us know.
A friend bought a Marlin '94 45 Colt and a little birds head gripped Ruger BH. The guns came with some generic ammo... and a box of 300 grain Buffalo killers of some kind that had one case missing. He said the previous owner shot the one hot wad in the Ruger and it hurt him so bad he put the rest back in the box and decided to sell it all.
Those things were vicious in the Marlin!! We didn't try them in the Ruger.

 

The first few shots I put through my ruger were light hand loads that came with it , the first heavy load was a total surprise.
Great chambering I am looking for some 180 grn projectiles to try out.

Cheers

 

Does it have a recoil pad on it? My 1894 44mag does and it's manageable. All I shoot are hot 240gr reloads, which is what store-bought ammo will be - pretty warm. It kicks alright, I don't mean to minimize it, but you can also load it down some.

 

The .44 Magnum is one that simply "Kicks". I one owned a Winchester M-94 in .44 Magnum and it also had an uncomfortable recoil, more than a .30-30. I currently own a Ruger Model 77/.44 Magnum bolt action carbine and it also kicks, but not as bad as the Winchester 94. I doubt if your bore is too tight for your .429" bullets, but you may want to slug your bore to be sure.

 

The Marlin 94 .44 mag does kick a bit but it's just the nature of the beast. My 30/30 Win 94 will get your attention right quick. The worst was my old Marlin 45/70. It came with a butt plate that had way too much curve. My handloads are the only ammo I shoot in it and the recoil was so bad (again the half moon butt plate) I had a shotgun rubber butt plate installed. It still will give you a headache but won't bruise up the shoulder.

 

Welcom MP,

Mp, got one. with full power and factory ammo 240 grs it does kick. doesn't bother me, the rifle is light. It is primarily a hunting rfle so not a lot of shooting. I reload and can shoot light loads. But like all hunters/reloaders I experiment. So I've loaded some HOT 300 grainers. WOW, recoil was so bad it bent all the pins holding the tubular magazine on. some repair required, so I'd never recomment that to shooters.

Bro' is recoil sensative; but wants to use factory ammo for deer hunting, in his Marrlin 44. I loaded 6 dummy 44 mag cartridges without primers, filled with # 7 1/2 lead shot and a 240 graain jacketed bullet seated backwards with a heavy crimp. sprayed them RED. told him to load the mag tube with 4 of these then 2 of his factory ammo. the extra weight seems to help him. Could also shorten the mag spring and add a stick of cast lead. to add weight and take up room of 4 cartridges, too conplex for many shooters. You really only need 2 shots with a 44 for hunting; you kill with the first one and the second one is a 'head job' for confidence building.

Hollow in butt stock (take of the buttplate) can be easily filled with lead shot also. The butt plate is usually heavily sprayed with finish Poly so you need to cut the finish along the line between buttplate and wood first; single edge razor blade works fine with heavy pressure.

All these additions of weight will change the Cg and the weight/handling.

 

Got one too. It has the same problem. The only cure is a good trading

 

Lightweight, skinny stocks, with metal butt-plates just ain't recoil friendly. I think a big part of the problem with the 44 carbines is guys get it in their heads that a pistol cartridge won't have much kick in a rifle, so they're surprised by just how much "felt" recoil there is. Personally, I have never minded the recoil from a 44 rifle of any kind, but my buddy's Ruger #1 in 460 S&W got my full attention!

Sims Vibration Laboratory makes excellent recoil pads that will tame it down, no problem.

Practice with cast bullet loads and a caseful of Trail Boss.

My daughters both shoot a Model '92 with full-house 44/40 loads (~1,550fps) and a crescent metal butt-plate, but that's with their hunting gear on.

 

I have a 21" Thompson Center Contender barrel in .44 Magnum. With iron sights it weighs less than 6 pounds and felt recoil seems greater than the .350 Rem Mag in the 600 Remington rifle.

A PAST pad solved the problem.

 

I had one and it kicked pretty good also so I turned it into a 357 X 44 Bain & Davis, not because of the recoil but because I always wanted one in the B&D round. Loved that rifle but let someone else enjoy it when I turned a Ruger 77/357 into a 357 X 44 Bain & Davis.


Steve..........

 

I love my Marlins, but the stocks seemed to be designed to amplify recoil, not dissipate it

Low, thin comb with a lot of drop = a recipe for the gun to jump up and whack you in the face. Plus the stocks are too short even for me, and I"m not all that tall. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of aftermarket solutions. My .35 Rem has a ram-line stock, which actually makes the problem worse because it is lighter than wood. Fixed that, more or less, buy putting a thin recoil pad on it. The slight increase in length of pull did wonders, and it no longer has a plastic buttplate that digs into my shoulder.

When i made a stock for my .30-30, a higher, straighter, wider comb helped a bunch. Plus the stock being made out of mesquite added a fair amount of weight too and it is a real *****cat to shoot from the bench. And I made the length of pull what I wanted..... anyway.....

Got to keep a FIRM grip on the forend to keep these guns from jumping up and smacking you in the face.

Lest anyone think I'm just a big sissy for complaining about it, none of my military surplus guns with steel buttplates beat me up anywhere near as bad as my .444 Marlin. It is all in the stock shape and dimensions.

 

Had a Ruger .44 mag semi-auto carbine years ago. Loaded with a full case of 2400 and a 240 JHP, don't recall the recoil being anywhere near uncomfortable. The pigs and deer didn't seem to like it, though!

 

I've got an old Ruger Carbine now. No kick to speak of but the butt is nearly twice as wide as the Marlin 'hatchet'.

 

Yup.... stock shape. Marlins can be brutal!

 

Shoot a box of Hornady "CUSTOM" 350grn 450 Marlin in a 1895M and you'll think the recoil of the 44 MAG is not that bad.

 

I have a 1894 in 44 mag it kicks worse then my Marlin 336 in 30/30 but no where near as bad as my Marlin 336 35 Remington it will definitely let you no its there

 

Hi
I have a Ruger .458 win mag I bought at a pawn shop cheap I had a 475 gr. bullet mold made for it and I load it at around 45-70 velocities I also loaded some up with the factory bullets 500 gr. with a copper covered steel jacket for penatration on large game Elephants. I loaded 60 Gr. 3031 for a velocity of 2100 fps. to match the factory loads I shot exactly three and I doubt I will ever shoot the rest of the box of 20 I made up. My marlin .44 with Lee cast 300 gr. bullets at 1300 fps. is a ***** cat I can shoot 20 before my shoulder starts feeling it. Recoil is something everybody percieves differntly are you holding the rifle tight to your shoulder ?
Islander

 

I have a 94 44 mag and the recoil is not as bad as it could be . I shoot 310 gr cast boolit in it that I cast and load and have no problem with it , But shoot the same boolit in my RH now I know how bad it kicks. My 30-30 is not bad also in marlin 336

 

I had a Marlin model 336 T . Short barrel and a straight stock. I’m tall, 6’-5” and the stock was short. It gave a pretty good whack to the shoulder with the 240 gr and 22 gr of 2400. Also with 23.1 of H 110. It was real accurate.

 

Blackened primers at start load? STOP what you are doing, double check powder weight and type of powder you are using.

If everything checks ok, take the gun to a good gunsmith along with a case with a blackened primer

 

Yes, this. The recoil seems to be the main focus of the responses, but the primers being blackened could be an actual safety issue. I highly doubt a tight barrel is the issue, but something is going on that should be checked.

 

I shoot the Rossi .44 magnum (stainless steel) with 240 grain SN ahead of a load of H110 and I have no qualms about shooting it. Why would the Marlin be any different? Just curious.

 

I haven't shot a Rossi, but I can tell you the Marlin stock design in TERRIBLE. Thin, low comb with lots of drop. Practically guaranteed to whack the tar out of your cheekbone. Too short for most adults.

Marlin couldn't have come up with a worse buttstock design if they had tried.

 

...Marlin couldn't have come up with a worse buttstock design if they had tried.

Well........

 

OK, you got me there.... the old-style, squirrel-rifle curved buttplate would have been absolute torture on my Marlin 1894 / .45 Colt, with a 300gr. bullet at 1700fps....