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I have a MEC red charge bar marked 12 GA 0. It has no other markings, not 302 (single-stage) or 502 (progressive).

This MEC 12 GA 0 red chage bar has factory fixed holes for the shot and powder charges and it does NOT take bushings.

Does anyone know what weight shot charge and powder charge (which powder) this MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar throws? And can anyone refer me to a chart showing charges tossed by this MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar?

This 12 GA 0 red charge bar is not listed on the MEC website, their current catalog or in any current or recent MEC bushing charts --- nor have I found this MEC charge bar in any shotshell reloading manual.

This MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar was stored with a Versamec 700 (vintage late 60's early 70's) single-stage shotshell reloader that I inherited after my Dad died. I reloaded shotshells with my dad when I was a teenager and again in the early 90's.

Now, I'm just getting around to reloading some shotshells and can't remember what this MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar is used for. I'm thinking it might be for skeet loads. I doubt it is for steel shot.

I might have it written down somewhere but I can't seem to find all of my shotshell reloading paperwork stuff (old load notes, etc.) --- I moved a couple of times. Recently, I seem to remember reading somewhere that listed the MEC 12 GA 0, 12 GA 00 and perhaps a 12 GA 1 red charge bars --- but I can for the life of me remember where I read it.

Any help would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks,
helenajoe
 

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helenajoe said:
Hi,

I have a MEC red charge bar marked 12 GA 0. It has no other markings, not 302 (single-stage) or 502 (progressive).

This MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar has factory fixed holes for the shot and powder charges and it does NOT take bushings.

Does anyone know what weight shot charge and powder charge (which powder) this MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar throws? And can anyone refer me to a chart showing charges tossed by this MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar?

This 12 GA 0 red charge bar is not listed on the MEC website, their current catalog or in any current or recent MEC bushing charts --- nor have I found this MEC charge bar in any shotshell reloading manual.

This MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar was stored with a Versamec 700 (vintage late 60's early 70's) single-stage shotshell reloader that I inherited after my Dad died. I reloaded shotshells with my dad when I was a teenager and again in the early 90's.

Now, I'm just getting around to reloading some shotshells and can't remember what this MEC 12 GA 0 red charge bar is used for. I'm thinking it might be for skeet loads. I doubt it is for steel shot.

I might have it written down somewhere but I can't seem to find all of my shotshell reloading paperwork stuff (old load notes, etc.) --- I moved a couple of times. Recently, I seem to remember reading somewhere that listed the MEC 12 GA 0, 12 GA 00 and perhaps a 12 GA 1 red charge bars --- but I can for the life of me remember where I read it.

Any help would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks,
helenajoe

MEC has a website at www.mayvl.com and should be able to answer your question. Hope this helps. All the best...
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helenajoe,
I have a 20 gauge bar similar to the one you mention that I bought in the late '60s, so you bar dates back that far. According to data in my souvenirs, the O bar is a 1 1/8 ounce bar that will drop 18.5 grains of Green Dot or 21 grains of PB. Both of these loads are to be used with some unspecified plastic wad unit. If you can find a First Edition of the Lyman Shotshell Handbook there would probably be more data in it.
 

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Found MEC Charging Bar Guide

Hi Everyone,

I found a MEC Charging Bar Guide with data for the 12 GA 0 red charge bar. It throws 1 1/8 oz of shot and a specified powder charge per the MEC Charging Bar Guide table.

If anyone wants a copy of the MEC Charging Bar Guide table, I'll send you one. It includes all the old red charge bars numbered from 0 to 16, and some of the numbers have a single letter behind them like OH, 1B, 8W, etc.

I couldn't find the Charging Bar Guide on MEC's website. Thanks for the idea to check the first edition of the Lyman Shotshell Handbook published in 1969. Someone on another forum said to look on the the ShotgunWorld.com website.


The 12 GA 0 red charge bar dates back to the late 60's and early 70's. I finally found the original paperwork that came with my Dad's Versamec 700 and the Charging Bar Guide is on the back of the parts diagram. It is dated Oct 5th 1972. Plus via a gun show find, I picked up an original MEC 600 JR parts diagram with the Charging Bar Guide on the back and that was dated July 3rd 1969.

Thanks everyone for helping solve this mystery. I really appreciate it.

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MEC had more than one of those guides. Joe, if one of your guides has AL7 powder listed for the 13W bar and/or Green Dot for the 8G bar, I would really appreciate it if you would email me a copy.

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Charge Bar Guide

DMC,

You have a copy of a charge bar guide from Dec. 1970 heading your way.

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Got it. :) Thank yoy very much. That's one of the charts I've been looking for.

Thanks again.
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I believe that calls for an Alcan FM-2 wad. Ah, the good old days.
 

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Hi Everyone,

I found a MEC Charging Bar Guide with data for the 12 GA 0 red charge bar. It throws 1 1/8 oz of shot and a specified powder charge per the MEC Charging Bar Guide table.

If anyone wants a copy of the MEC Charging Bar Guide table, I'll send you one. It includes all the old red charge bars numbered from 0 to 16, and some of the numbers have a single letter behind them like OH, 1B, 8W, etc.

I couldn't find the Charging Bar Guide on MEC's website. Thanks for the idea to check the first edition of the Lyman Shotshell Handbook published in 1969. Someone on another forum said to look on the the ShotgunWorld.com website.


The 12 GA 0 red charge bar dates back to the late 60's and early 70's. I finally found the original paperwork that came with my Dad's Versamec 700 and the Charging Bar Guide is on the back of the parts diagram. It is dated Oct 5th 1972. Plus via a gun show find, I picked up an original MEC 600 JR parts diagram with the Charging Bar Guide on the back and that was dated July 3rd 1969.

Thanks everyone for helping solve this mystery. I really appreciate it.

helenajoe
could I get a copy of the mec charging bar guide to interpret the markings on the old bars

thanks,
Scott

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I recently purchased a Vera Mec with a charge bar stamped.
302
12 GA 0

Is it possible to be able to receive a copy of the charge bar guide. I have been searching the web. This is the only forum that seems to have the info I need. I would be very grateful if someone could help.
Thank you in advance.
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Took all my old charge bars, set up the mill and made them into changeable powder bushing bars throwing 1/2 oz to 2 1/4 oz lead shot. Even milled the slot for shot insert into some bars. If I collect enough will do the same for steel shot but that will require twice as many as the lead. Had same problems trying too find the old data on those bars. That was nearly twenty years ago in the early ninties.
 

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I would love a copy if you don't mind I am always looking for old data as I find bars like these at gun shows all the time for peanuts!!
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I would love a copy if you don't mind I am always looking for old data as I find bars like these at gun shows all the time for peanuts!!
Thanks Jonathan
I need an e-mail address to send it to.

IryHor, i've sent one to you.

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I was wandering if anyone could send a copy of the charge bar info for the bars that are marked 0-16 on the older bars. thank you, Brian [email protected]
I sent a sheet that covers most of the older bars, but "0-16" is a new designation to me. I don't have that on any of the sheets I have. There is a 12 Ga 0, a 12 Ga 16, a 16 Ga 0, but nothing in the format you list.

DC
 
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