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Hello Everyone.

I've read the tips on how to file back the face of the cartrdige carrier on my .44 mag Marlin 1894 back by .100" to allow it to accomodate longer COLs than 1.610".

I have two questions. First, is removing and reinstalling the carrier a simple matter once the bolt and lever are removed and the carrier screw is removed as well? And second, exactly which surface is the "face" of the carrier?

Thanks for any and all help.

Jack
 

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Jack,

Yes indeed, removal is quite straightforward, and although a little time consuming, it is neither complicated or difficult, nor is reassembly once the project is completed.  Nothing to fear here!

Now about the "face" of the carrier.  What is referred to here, is as you are looking at the fully assembled rifle, when cycling a cartridge through the action, you'll see by looking in the open action, as a cartridge feeds down from the magazine tube, that it slides into contact with a stop that is machined into the cartridge carrier.  This stop is to keep the cartridge from feeding too far into the action.  As you cycle the lever rearward you'll notice the carrier lift the cartridge to be picked up by the lever.  The "face" that we refer to is the forward, or leading surface of that stop that the cartridge actually comes in contact with as the cartridge feeds down from the magazine.  It is that forward surface that can be milled down 0.100" to allow the feeding and cycling of the Marlin action using longer nose to crimp length bullets than standard.

Hope this helps clarify things for you just a bit!  If not, don't be bashful about asking for help!  That's what we're here for!

God Bless,

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Thanks Marshall.

I have another question about disassembly. First, I make sure that the rifle is unloaded in chamber and magazine. Second, I remove the lever, bolt and ejector like a normal cleaning. Then, I remove the cartridge carrier screw.

My questions are...

Does the carrier then lift out easily, in one piece, though the port? Are there any other small bits or parts to pay attention to? Is reassembly as easy as disassembly?

If there's a way to make a mess of this, I just may find it. Again, thank you for your help.

Jack
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Stranger, I just did the carrier on my 1894CP in 357 so I could shoot 200gr hard cast and this is the way I did it. Pull the bolt out then take off the stock, then pull the hammer spring. Take out the screws that hold in the lower tang and hammer and pull the lower tang out, and the carrier will come out. I had to remove about .060 off the face of my carrier, but she handles 200gr bullets slick now!
 

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Does this apply to a 1895ss as well. I've read where Mr McPherson has done this to his 45-70 so it will feed a little longer oal cartridge. I had wondered just what it took to do this. I know he goes into detail on this mod and others in his book "Accurizing Factory Rifles" but I don't have it YET!

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J Sanders,

In regard to doing this modification on the 1895SS series of .45-70's.  It used to be a fairly straightforward proceedure, very similar to the 1894's up until the time that Marlin added the cross-bolt safety.  At that time the cartridge carrier was re-designed with a spring actuated toggle type lift assist mechanism on the carrier.  With the new style actions after that modification, I haven't found a satisfactory way of easily adding possible c.O.L. to these new .45-70's.  

If someone does find instructions to that end, that are reliable and functional, please let me know!

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Mr. Stanton thank you for your reply to my inquiry. I'll have to stick to the 2.55 oal for my rifle for the time being. Like you, If anyone knows a way to increase this a little it would be good. I'd like to know how too.
 
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