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I'd be interested to know how your LBT mould turns out. I tried to order an LBT 44-320 back in August '99 just before Veral went on ur ah "vacation" and unfortunately never got my highly anticipated mould.

I was able to touch base with him recently and he indicated he wasn't going to do any more moulds from scratch and I'm not exactly clear on my possibilities for the Win M94 in 30-30. Perhaps I should drop him another line.

Anyway, what exactly are you ordering from LBT?

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When they claim one needs at least half the bullet's weight behind the crimping groove they're probably assuming the ogive starts just ahead of the crimping groove. A more precise requirement would be to ensure at least half the bullet's length be devoted to its shank; i.e., its portion that fills the grooves.

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The old jailbird just quoted me 125 bucks for an aluminum double cavity 30-170 LCFN which is an item right out of his catalog with no modifications. According to Veral... "they (meaning his moulds) are all custom cut, even though I (meaning Veral) call them standard".

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If you can afford it (at least $125.00 for a DC Al mould), call Veral, but watch your back because I feel he may try to make up for lost revenue. I didn't care for Dan's work. In fact I don't trust any custom mould maker today. I'd rather find an RCBS or SAECO design that satisfies my needs or move on to a different caliber. In fact, I wanted a heavy weight .44 mould for a .444 and since Veral was out of business from '99 to '03 and the manufacturers who guarantee their moulds don't offer such a design, I decided to leave that project behind. If Walt Melander was still cutting moulds I'd order from him without considering anyone else. When SAECO, RCBS, Lyman or even Lee begins to offer a 350 grain mould for the .444 I'll buy it in a heart beat.

BTW, Lyman does or did make a heavy weight .44 in the recent past but it's nose design was too blunt to provide a reasonable COL in a .444 rifle or even a .44 wheelgun, IMHO. I believe the mould number was 429649 (definitely not 429650!) and dropped a bullet in excess of 340 grains in WW metal.

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