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Hello, I am new to this forum, but I have been using guns now for many years.

I recently decided that I want to purchase my first rifle, which will be mostly used for hunting, as well as occasional target shooting. I am looking for a 30-06 that can shoot a sub-MOA group at 100 yards. My budget is $2-2.5k

I would really appreciate any input.

Sincere regards,
John8789
 

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Buy 3 good conditioned used, of different calibers/platforms (a lever, a bolt, a shotgun) that will ALL do what you asked, for that much $. I'd hold off a bit & try several before dropping that much $ on your first rifle. If you buy smart you can use them as long as you like & with good care likely sell them for a profit, or come close to breaking even. Then go buy what you really want. The old saying be careful what you wish for, is so true. Many 1st rifles don't always live up to what you hoped for, or your tastes change with experience.
 

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Is the 2-2.5k all for the gun, or will it also need to buy the scope? - I ask because a good rule of thumb is to spend as much on the optics as you do on the rifle.
 

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Is the 2-2.5k all for the gun, or will it also need to buy the scope? - I ask because a good rule of thumb is to spend as much on the optics as you do on the rifle.
Hello CharlesB, the budget stated above is for the rifle only.
 

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The biggest problem with sub MOA...

hunting rifles is that ---- they are just too heavy --- at least for the way I hunt.
 

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With that budget get a Sako all the way. Nicest factory bolt action rifle I've seen. They have an accuracy guarantee I believe under 1 MOA. You will not be disappointed in the quality.

85 Hunter Laminated Stainless | SAKO

Or you could get you a custom built rem 700. I as well as a few friends have gone the route of custom rem 700's and they are nice too.

I'll add that .308 win is a more inherintly accurate cartridge and is only about 150fps slower. It will do dang near everything .30-06 will do in a shorter action length. It's just as easy to get too since it's a military cartridge.
 

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Buy a Ruger, a Howa (or Weatherby), and a Savage and keep the one that shoots best. Use the left over cash for a good scope.
 

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I applaud your choice of caliber (30-06) and you will get all the accuracy you want out of it. The rifle and scope are just the vehicles.

Here is a 1/13 video of a rifle build (this one in .308) that will help you along in your decision. There is a lot of knowledge and information here and is a good place to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkbnnU7IO5E

Good luck!

ON EDIT: I'm not recommending this brand/model rifle nor would I denigrate it. It's just a series of videos to expand your knowledge base and help you make your decision.
 

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The Sako sounds like a good idea.
 
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My first rifle advice

Hello, I am new to this forum, but I have been using guns now for many years.

I recently decided that I want to purchase my first rifle, which will be mostly used for hunting, as well as occasional target shooting. I am looking for a 30-06 that can shoot a sub-MOA group at 100 yards. My budget is $2-2.5k

I would really appreciate any input.

Sincere regards,
John8789
Hi, John & welcome to the forum!

You've got sufficient funds to obtain most any 30-06 you'd want and I also commend your choice of calibers. As you didn't specify new or used, I would consider three factory-made used rifles that, to me, are heads and shoulders above the new rifles today. These would be the Browning Safari Hi-Power made prior to 1963, a German (J P Sauer) made Weatherby Mark V and a Sako FinnBear. I am fortunate to have all three, though in different calibers. My Browning is a 1959 model 30-06. I haven't found a rifle to come close to these in quality or accuracy without a great deal of custom work done. All three can be found for around $1500 or less in excellent condition. All three will shoot sub-MOA but you will have to do some experimenting with ammo, as rifles are individuals, liking certain weight bullets and loads. You obviously have the funds to have the rifle custom-fitted to your stature if required.

Individual taste comes into play here so you need to see these and others to decide what you like. But these would be my choices. Good luck!:)
 

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I don't know if they are available in the USA but if you want something a bit different but also exceptionally good quality then the Blaser R8 Professional takes some beating. It may be a bit above you limit new but you may be able to find a good second hand rifle close to what you want to spend. I know that a number are available and some in 30-06 in the UK. A second choice would be a Sako or a Tikka.
In my view any rifle(doubles exonerated) which will not shoot 1 moa or less should be sent back to the makers. In fact I expect either of the barrels on my Bettinsoli double to shoot moa and they do. The difficulty is me the operator:eek::) Just have to lay off the coffee before visiting the range.

By the way, welcome aboard.
 

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My suggestion would be a M70 Super Grade and topping it with Leupold VXR or VX6, Swarovski, or Zeiss with an unclutterd reticle. I'd suggest something in the 2-7 to 4-12 range of magnification with a moderate sized objective of 33- 44mm

Rifle will be about $1300 and the scope $500-$1200
 

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X2 on what Tnhunter suggested. Get a Winchester M70 30-06 & top it with a good Nikon, Burris or Leopold scope. Mine is an absolute tack driver. This group was shot at approximately 110 yards with my M70 using a Caldwell lead sled. Here is an excellent article of controlled vs push feed for bolt action rifles. http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/controlled-feed-vs-push-feed-rifles/

 

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Buy a .22 LR first. MOA capability in your big game rifle means nothing when 99% of the capability is reliant on user input. You don't need to spend near $2000 for a rifle that shoots. I would recommend spending money on a used rifle to see what you like. Any (non Axis) Savage. Winchester 70, Zastava, Sako, CZ/Brno, Browning, Ruger, or Remington (preferably older, 80s and 90s were probably nicest). All good, and capable of MOA with ammunition they like. Spend $300-$600 on a decent scope for it, and a few hundred on components and reloading gear.

$500 for a CZ .22 + $600 for 30-06 + $200 for rimfire scope + $400 for 30-06 scope + $300 for basic reloading set up = $2000. Plus you will probably want decent binoculars, and spend a couple, few hundred for components and ammo.

Your wallet will thank you, as well as your shoulder, when you shoot a couple hundred rounds of .22 at the range.

And after those two rifles you will probably want a decent pistol, a duck/grouse/goose gun, a varmint rifle etc.

Don't worry about trying to spend all your money on one rifle. You'll find lots of places to spend the rest....
 

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If you take one of the nicer new Remington 700's ($600 or so) put in a nice Timney trigger ($150-250), bed it in a somewhat nicer stock (bell and Carlson is good for the money). You will have a rifle that shoots fairly decent. I'd aim for the stainless barrel and action. Factory remington finishes suck on most models. If you get stainless you can get it cerakoted in whatever color you want (I do black) and you will have 2 layers of protection.

Overall cost for that will be around $1000-1200 depending on what you pick and who does the cerakote, etc. Put you a nice vortex or leupold scope on it and you are good to go. Me and friends have done several rifles like this and they all shoot well. Even with the factory barrels and action.

Edit: and I'll second a .22lr for you to practice with. If you can't shoot a .22LR well you won't shoot a centerfire rifle well. Rifle accuracy is dependent upon the shooter. It deteriorates as well if you don't practice. I went about 2 years without much rifle shooting. When I did shoot rifles it's was black rifles which goes if you can hit the 12" plate at 200 then you are good. Went almost straight pistol shooting for a while there. It ruined me on rifles. It took me 3 weekends at the range to get back to sub MOA accuracy with my rifles. There is no MAGIC sub MOA rifle. You have to work at it.
 

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Hy John , welcome.
Thats going to be fun choosing a rifle with a couple of grand to spend on the rifle .
Just get one you like ,hold , weight , feel , look they are all pretty good exept for a couple of the cheep ones.
Its not like you are buying a leg and i doubt its your only two grand.
As far as recoil the stock wants to be pretty close to level with the barrel .
Mauser 98 has a reputation for being the safest.
If i had some disposable cash i would be looking at a Kimber.
A nice double would be fun.
looking forward to hearing what you get.
One of my nicest guns cost me $150.
Out of the last 6 second hand ones the only one that went over $500 was $900 and it has had a chamber job done in its new barrel that is realy bad , i baught it because of its new barrel.
I dont think there is any gun makers that dont put out the odd dodgy one .
 

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I applaud your choice of caliber (30-06) and you will get all the accuracy you want out of it. The rifle and scope are just the vehicles.

Here is a 1/13 video of a rifle build (this one in .308) that will help you along in your decision. There is a lot of knowledge and information here and is a good place to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkbnnU7IO5E

Good luck!

ON EDIT: I'm not recommending this brand/model rifle nor would I denigrate it. It's just a series of videos to expand your knowledge base and help you make your decision.
How on earth are people supposed to watch it? Mediocre presentation at best.
 

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Hello, I am new to this forum, but I have been using guns now for many years.

I recently decided that I want to purchase my first rifle, which will be mostly used for hunting, as well as occasional target shooting. I am looking for a 30-06 that can shoot a sub-MOA group at 100 yards. My budget is $2-2.5k

I would really appreciate any input.

Sincere regards,
John8789
If you want a classic at that cost range, there are some really nice Pre64 Model 70s and 30-06 is fairly common.

I could recommend several rifles including having a custom one built, however I have a SAKO with changeable barrels that shoots very well and handy enough for hunting. There's also TIKA which everyone is raving about and I'm thinking about. They do shoot nicely and you can add a detachable magazine to them

All rifles | Tikka


For scope: top end is Nightforce, Every good hunter I know use them. There's also Leupold and the Vortex vipers. I don't do low cost scopes for any reason... seen to many of them die at the worst possible time. On my primary rifle, I have a Zeiss on it at the moment.
 
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